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26 minutes ago, Pe Dabliu said:

Они до сих пор не исправили проблему с тем, что шкуры бифало неправильно прилегают к мордам бифало. Меня возмущает, что это тоже отодвигается на второй план, хотя мы заплатили за шкуры

DS bugs that will survive to the 15th anniversary of the game :

7 hours ago, Bumber64 said:

I've heard you can get hit with multiple monkey pirate raids during CK. Can the WARBOT arena also be close enough to get pirates?

monkey spawns only happen if you are on a boat, much like hounds only spawn if you are on a turf

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Warbot fight is great with these changes! You can now freeze yourself with a crystallizer or polar lights for the entire fight and if there are no other heat sources nearby, the boss will just completely skip the missile attack. Managing health loss with jellybeans is fairly straightforward and it also keeps you slowly losing health during Scion so you can attack with the maul to keep your sanity down. Thank you so much for giving us more and better options for managing the missile attack. I think the boss is in a pretty good place at this point.

Edit: It seems that WX with a single refrigerant circuit still completely masks their heat signature. Guessing this will be patched because they are nowhere close to freezing outside of winter.

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6 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

Warbot fight is great with these changes! You can now freeze yourself with a crystallizer or polar lights for the entire fight and if there are no other heat sources nearby, the boss will just completely skip the missile attack. Managing health loss with jellybeans is fairly straightforward and it also keeps you slowly losing health during Scion so you can attack with the maul to keep your sanity down. Thank you so much for giving us more and better options for managing the missile attack. I think the boss is in a pretty good place at this point.

Edit: It seems that WX with a single refrigerant circuit still completely masks their heat signature. Guessing this will be patched because they are nowhere close to freezing outside of winter.

what about chilled amulet?

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43 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

Edit: It seems that WX with a single refrigerant circuit still completely masks their heat signature. Guessing this will be patched because they are nowhere close to freezing outside of winter.

It's intended. There was a bug where WX-78 would be ignored if ambient temperature was above 0 when using no circuits, that got fixed, and I pointed out that refrigerant WX-78 gets ignored (but that that's consistent with endothermic sources being ignored and it's a neat little advantage). They decided to keep it.

37 minutes ago, Well-met said:

what about chilled amulet?

It can if world temperature is low enough, see here. They'd need to buff its negative heat value to work consistently across all seasons. Or they could add a unique check for it, if that's what you meant.

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5 minutes ago, hoxi said:

It's intended. There was a bug where WX-78 would be ignored if ambient temperature was above 0 when using no circuits, that got fixed, and I pointed out that refrigerant WX-78 gets ignored (but that that's consistent with endothermic sources being ignored and it's a neat little advantage). They decided to keep it.

Doesn’t seem super consistent if that is the case because Wurt with an ice bream still gets targeted. Unless they want to chock up the exception to some sort of robot affinity.

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16 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

Doesn’t seem super consistent if that is the case because Wurt with an ice bream still gets targeted. Unless they want to chock up the exception to some sort of robot affinity.

You're misunderstanding. The Ice Bream itself is an endothermic source (which gets ignored), Wurt isn't, and she doesn't become one when holding one.

When a heater entity is in an inventory or container, it's hidden from heat detection. Do players get cold when near a Wurt holding and Ice Bream? No, Wurt doesn't become an endothermic source and they can't detect the Ice Bream either. By comparison, being near a WX-78 player with the Refrigerant Circuit makes your temperature go down, just like with any other endothermic sources.

However if Wurt's temperature is at or below 0 degrees due to the Ice Bream, she will be ignored. You need to take cold damage to hide yourself completely. As stated in the patch notes:

  • Dropping below freezing temperature will mask your heat signature completely.
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17 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

Doesn’t seem super consistent if that is the case because Wurt with an ice bream still gets targeted. Unless they want to chock up the exception to some sort of robot affinity.

You must not remember the WX78 rework? WX actually DOES have robot affinities, Robotic enemy mobs are intentionally now designed to target WX less often, and they can get closer to robot enemies then other characters can before they are targeted.

I might not play the game as often as y’all do, but I damn sure read every patch note. :wilson_vforvictory:

41 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

You must not remember the WX78 rework? WX actually DOES have robot affinities, Robotic enemy mobs are intentionally now designed to target WX less often, and they can get closer to robot enemies then other characters can before they are targeted.

I might not play the game as often as y’all do, but I damn sure read every patch note. :wilson_vforvictory:

This isn't true. You didn't read them correctly :juggling:

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55 minutes ago, hoxi said:

You're misunderstanding. The Ice Bream itself is an endothermic source (which gets ignored), Wurt isn't, and she doesn't become one when holding one.

When a heater entity is in an inventory or container, it's hidden from heat detection. Do players get cold when near a Wurt holding and Ice Bream? No, Wurt doesn't become an endothermic source and they can't detect the Ice Bream either. By comparison, being near a WX-78 player with the Refrigerant Circuit makes your temperature go down, just like with any other endothermic sources.

However if Wurt's temperature is at or below 0 degrees due to the Ice Bream, she will be ignored. You need to take cold damage to hide yourself completely. As stated in the patch notes:

  • Dropping below freezing temperature will mask your heat signature completely.

I think I understand. Because WX becomes the endo source itself it is completely masked even though its effective temperature is above freezing? Let me know if I’m still misunderstanding and thanks for the explanation!

1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said:

You must not remember the WX78 rework? WX actually DOES have robot affinities, Robotic enemy mobs are intentionally now designed to target WX less often, and they can get closer to robot enemies then other characters can before they are targeted.

I might not play the game as often as y’all do, but I damn sure read every patch note. :wilson_vforvictory:

It doesn't have anything to do with robot affinities. Though that could have influenced letting WX-78 with a refrigerant circuit be ignored stay as a feature, aside from consistency.

17 minutes ago, JazzyGames said:

I think I understand. Because WX becomes the endo source itself it is completely masked even though its effective temperature is above freezing? Let me know if I’m still misunderstanding and thanks for the explanation!

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

On the other hand, using thermal circuits to become exothermic means WX-78 will become a beacon, possibly taking more priority over other sources like even smaller fires and thermal stones, depending on how many circuits they have equipped.

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Thank you for your hard work.:D

At the same time, I hope you could consider the revision suggestions I made earlier in this post regarding the wearing effect of the upgraded Enlightened Crown.

The following are the suggestions regarding Celestial Scion.

The wires on Celestial Scion should not be overly concentrated in the legs. Instead, they should be evenly distributed in the transparent body like nerves and make them emit electric sparks regularly, which looks more oppressive (perhaps the energy flow on the wires can also make the attack moves more predictable). The part of the body related to the moon's energy should not be overly transparent either. It should be appropriate to cover some mechanical parts. And the moon energy on Celestial Scion's legs seemed to have no fluidity at all. It was more like a border drawn in a draft

5 hours ago, V2C said:

Just letting you guys know that we are working on the berry bush skin bugs.

 

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Not sure if this has already been reported or if it's just me, but the game crashes now when fighting Celestial Scion.

Also—gotta say, using freezing yourself to avoid missile detection is actually a pretty cool strat. Totally changes the gameplay. Now I'm more worried about freezing to death than spamming fire all over the map."

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3 hours ago, aoka404 said:

Thank you for your hard work.:D

At the same time, I hope you could consider the revision suggestions I made earlier in this post regarding the wearing effect of the upgraded Enlightened Crown.

The following are the suggestions regarding Celestial Scion.

The wires on Celestial Scion should not be overly concentrated in the legs. Instead, they should be evenly distributed in the transparent body like nerves and make them emit electric sparks regularly, which looks more oppressive (perhaps the energy flow on the wires can also make the attack moves more predictable). The part of the body related to the moon's energy should not be overly transparent either. It should be appropriate to cover some mechanical parts. And the moon energy on Celestial Scion's legs seemed to have no fluidity at all. It was more like a border drawn in a draft

 

@V2C:angel:

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2 minutes ago, Bumber64 said:

It's generally considered poor taste to keep pinging someone like that, FYI. Klei reads the forums. You don't have to draw attention to each of your posts.

I only hope that developers can see my suggestions among a bunch of compliments. This has nothing to do with you.

Even if the developers don't consider acceptance, I still hope they can see it. Maybe it will be of other help.:)

 

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