apex_malik Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 Wouldn't it be lovely to have a lock type mechanic to only allow certain players to access Maxwell's Magicians Hat inventory? So many times I was wondering where my stuff is gone from my hat and realized a someone made a Shadow Chester on day 11 and helping themselves to some free goodies lol I hope the devs see this implement something like that <3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 Issue with it that this is a public inventory for everyone to access. Without reworking it won't be lockable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 It was never meant to be a private inventory, also if more than one maxwell is present they will all share the hat’s content from day 1. I think the magician’s box shows clearly that the intention of the shadow dimension storage was to share items across distances only. I’d say it’s fine as it is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 5 minutes ago, ShadowDuelist said: It was never meant to be a private inventory, also if more than one maxwell is present they will all share the hat’s content from day 1. I think the magician’s box shows clearly that the intention of the shadow dimension storage was to share items across distances only. I’d say it’s fine as it is. But I mean… is it though? It’s a magical supply box, Maxwell is a master of the magic he controls, he even once ruled over the constant! So I’m pretty sure being able to have a personal magical inventory outside of the shared inventory wouldn’t be a ridiculous ask for him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 12 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: But I mean… is it though? It’s a magical supply box, Maxwell is a master of the magic he controls, he even once ruled over the constant! So I’m pretty sure being able to have a personal magical inventory outside of the shared inventory wouldn’t be a ridiculous ask for him. Why does Maxwell deserve his own Woby, though? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 The shadow inventory is a world-based thing, not a Maxwell-based thing. If it was supposed to just be a bigger Maxwell inventory it would be a bigger Maxwell inventory. You being able to teleport items to and from someone with Shadow Chester is not comparable to Woby's inventory, it is comparable to that skill Woby has where she delivers items to people. Someone making Shadow Chester and taking items is not stealing them, and if you think it is then you should probably be playing with other people like yourself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 18, 2025 Share Posted February 18, 2025 1 hour ago, Bumber64 said: Why does Maxwell deserve his own Woby, though? Because Maxwell has 50hp, doesn’t have a day 1 Beefalo Mount, or ranged slingshots, or a portable and Redeployable healing tent and campfire? Yeah yeah sure Maxwell Strong, whatever… Maxwell is also only considered “strong” because he can do everything he can Do + Everything Wickerbottom can do too. If the guy got his own Woby like storage, it wouldn’t be giving him his own Woby, I don’t care how much Monster Meat or Woby Treats you stash in that hat, it’s not going to suddenly grow in size and levitate Maxwell around the map like riding a Magic Carpet. although.. maybe it SHOULD. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said: Because Maxwell has 50hp, doesn’t have a day 1 Beefalo Mount, or ranged slingshots, or a portable and Redeployable healing tent and campfire? Yeah yeah sure Maxwell Strong, whatever… Maxwell is also only considered “strong” because he can do everything he can Do + Everything Wickerbottom can do too. Even if the Maxwell player never switches to Wickerbottom, or another Wickerbottom never appears in a Maxwell world, he would still be S-tier well into the post-rifts world. And he doesn't even have a skill tree yet. He may use the shadow storage for himself under certain circumstances, but generally speaking, that is not its intended purpose. I respectfully disagree with OP's point of view. I believe they simply don't know how to use the shadow storage correctly. At the very least, they should avoid placing items of vital importance in it on a public server as a rule of thumb. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Mike23Ua said: Yeah yeah sure Maxwell Strong, whatever… Maxwell is also only considered “strong” because he can do everything he can Do + Everything Wickerbottom can do too. He's strong even without Wicker's books. Shadow prison and duelists for combat. Workers for resource collection. Shareable storage for transferring resources between players (or just bonus storage in solo, skipping shadow Chester). And then we get to him using books to instantly grow crops and summon fish/rain/moon. He really doesn't need an extra storage on top of that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 40 minutes ago, Bumber64 said: He's strong even without Wicker's books. Shadow prison and duelists for combat. Workers for resource collection. Shareable storage for transferring resources between players (or just bonus storage in solo, skipping shadow Chester). And then we get to him using books to instantly grow crops and summon fish/rain/moon. He really doesn't need an extra storage on top of that. But he will still get a skill tree, and it will still include new stuff (see currently busted Wendy Beta- did she ever actually NEED to be able to stack potions, store mourning glory in her own casket basket and turn Abby into a boss killer? No… but look where we are now.) My point here is simple: Maxwells getting new (and probably broken) stuff.. And a personal hat storage option seems like a very likely candidate for part of that update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Because Maxwell has 50hp, doesn’t have a day 1 Beefalo Mount, or ranged slingshots, or a portable and Redeployable healing tent and campfire? Yeah yeah sure Maxwell Strong, whatever… Maxwell is also only considered “strong” because he can do everything he can Do + Everything Wickerbottom can do too. If the guy got his own Woby like storage, it wouldn’t be giving him his own Woby, I don’t care how much Monster Meat or Woby Treats you stash in that hat, it’s not going to suddenly grow in size and levitate Maxwell around the map like riding a Magic Carpet. although.. maybe it SHOULD. Maxwell is top 1 by at least 10 miles with or without being able to read Wickerbottom's books. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonHiggs Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 11 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Because Maxwell has 50hp 50 and can wear the most protective non planar armor in the game without penalties while doesnt need to take part in the fight to deal top 3 dps Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 is sorta like the rabbit horn thingy storage, is design to be a public storage. 9 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: But he will still get a skill tree, and it will still include new stuff (see currently busted Wendy Beta- did she ever actually NEED to be able to stack potions, store mourning glory in her own casket basket and turn Abby into a boss killer? No… but look where we are now.) My point here is simple: Maxwells getting new (and probably broken) stuff.. And a personal hat storage option seems like a very likely candidate for part of that update. until that happens, it should remain as a public space Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 14 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: But he will still get a skill tree, and it will still include new stuff (see currently busted Wendy Beta- did she ever actually NEED to be able to stack potions, store mourning glory in her own casket basket and turn Abby into a boss killer? No… but look where we are now.) My point here is simple: Maxwells getting new (and probably broken) stuff.. And a personal hat storage option seems like a very likely candidate for part of that update. The only elixirs she can stack on top of normal ones are the rift elixirs. (Unless you meant inventory, see: Wigfrid songs.) Those keep her relevant for rifts bosses, and also got nerfed hard from where they were a few months ago. MG storage is a non-issue (stacks to 40, doesn't spoil). BS III helps her survive certain boss attacks but halves cure-all healing. Maxwell's kit only needs NMF directly, so he doesn't require a special container like Wendy or Wigfrid. Willow didn't get one for her embers. I don't expect he's going to get much power in his tree. (Likely not as many players to downplay his strength.) Expect a few more simultaneous shadow workers, horror duelists, etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Bumber64 said: I don't expect he's going to get much power in his tree. (Likely not as many players to downplay his strength.) Expect a few more simultaneous shadow workers, horror duelists, etc. As a Maxwell main, I honestly want them to nerf his base form and drip feed some of his current power in the form of his skill tree. 2 duelists at base is enough for early game, and let him upgrade the codex with later game materials to allow him to spawn more. I can't imagine that ever happening though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurun Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 Imagine a tean who did his best to transform Chester into shadow Chester by day 11 and suddenly lost possibility to unlock it. Guys are right, despite I love Maxwell, shadow dimension is just a dimension. Like other characters can use shadow sword, they can also use shadow dimension... If they find out how. I wonder why they still haven't cought Maxwell and beat his magic secrets of him. I want others to be able to use his book for some tricks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 19, 2025 Share Posted February 19, 2025 12 hours ago, WilsonHiggs said: 50 and can wear the most protective non planar armor in the game without penalties while doesnt need to take part in the fight to deal top 3 dps It's 75 health. 5 hours ago, Dr. Safety said: As a Maxwell main, I honestly want them to nerf his base form and drip feed some of his current power in the form of his skill tree. 2 duelists at base is enough for early game, and let him upgrade the codex with later game materials to allow him to spawn more. I can't imagine that ever happening though I wish that would happen. Maxwell was my #1 most played character before the rework but ever since the rework he's been so boring. I never even pick him a single time any more. It would be so fun to gradually gain some of the rework's power through accomplishments while choosing other parts of it as part of the skill tree, instead of just having all of it from day 1 for free for no reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted February 20, 2025 Share Posted February 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Cheggf said: I wish that would happen. Maxwell was my #1 most played character before the rework but ever since the rework he's been so boring. I never even pick him a single time any more. It would be so fun to gradually gain some of the rework's power through accomplishments while choosing other parts of it as part of the skill tree, instead of just having all of it from day 1 for free for no reason. Dude same (besides Warly), although I did play him a decent amount after his rework and still do sometimes, but it just isn't the same. I was just hoping for a buff for his duelists and his sanity gain (not needed now that he can use shadow gear for free). He would still be a good character and imagine how awesome of a skill tree it would be to give him shadow spells after upgrading the codex with thulecite or pure horror. Once people have something, they hate losing it so taking stuff away would not go over well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonHiggs Posted February 20, 2025 Share Posted February 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Cheggf said: It's 75 health Lmao i wanted to tell them is 75 instead of 50 and ended up saying the same dumb thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1799685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apex_malik Posted February 24, 2025 Author Share Posted February 24, 2025 On 2/19/2025 at 2:23 AM, Cheggf said: The shadow inventory is a world-based thing, not a Maxwell-based thing. If it was supposed to just be a bigger Maxwell inventory it would be a bigger Maxwell inventory. You being able to teleport items to and from someone with Shadow Chester is not comparable to Woby's inventory, it is comparable to that skill Woby has where she delivers items to people. Someone making Shadow Chester and taking items is not stealing them, and if you think it is then you should probably be playing with other people like yourself. The teleporting items bit is hardly utilized after 2 or 3 times. It gets a bit annoying to have a Maxwell keep asking others to swap a cold thermal stone or place food or other items in there. At that point, are you even playing the game anymore or just asking people to play for you? Sure it is a world based thing, and what I am asking for is it to be a personal thing for Maxwell. The shadow dimension should be accessed by Maxwell himself. Klei introduced a new Shadow Dimension type inventory recently with the Rabbit King, so we know they can do that. Instead of Shadow Chester, it can be a Red Chester instead, like the Blue one that acts like an icebox. --- what I am saying is, The Magician's Hat should be exactly that, The Magician's Hat. If we really needs item teleportation, just have Maxwell make a few Shadow Chests in the world and BAM! Problem solved. This post wasn't a 1 to 1 comparison of Max to Walter at all. All I suggested was some privacy of inventory. At least with Wobby she follows Walter around so other's can't access his stuff as easily. I just wanted to see what people would think of the idea, and so far it seems 50/50 or 40/60 not in favor. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1801053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 24, 2025 Share Posted February 24, 2025 8 hours ago, apex_malik said: The teleporting items bit is hardly utilized after 2 or 3 times. It gets a bit annoying to have a Maxwell keep asking others to swap a cold thermal stone or place food or other items in there. At that point, are you even playing the game anymore or just asking people to play for you? I'm talking about things like being able to teleport dozens of unstackable thulecite chestpieces, crowns, clubs, etc out of the ruins instead of spending aeons going back and forth. Quickly transporting stacks upon stacks of items any distance. Teleporting any items you forgot to bring with you instead of spending 10 minutes going back to get them. I guess you could teleport stuff like food or thermals in an emergency, but I don't know what kind of weird stuff you're doing where you're relying on it so much. Why do you not just, like, have the food? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1801131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FillerText Posted February 25, 2025 Share Posted February 25, 2025 16 hours ago, apex_malik said: At that point, are you even playing the game anymore or just asking people to play for you? What? It's in the title. It's teamplay. Why would you play in a public server if you don't want to take advantage of having multiple players on the same team as you? Have you even thought about the uses for teleporting items? Having 1 player on the other side means you literally have the entire base at your disposal. Infinite inventory for gathering resources, can explore to your hearts content without having to go back for food/healing. And even If you really insist, Chester cannot go to caves at all. And inventories of the top hat are exclusive to each shard. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1801267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted February 25, 2025 Share Posted February 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, FillerText said: What? It's in the title. It's teamplay. Why would you play in a public server if you don't want to take advantage of having multiple players on the same team as you? That's a good point. Why is he dismissing the idea of teamwork as you "not playing the game"? What's he joining public servers for and wanting a private inventory for? Is he just there to be bitter and try to hoard everything for himself so he can brag to them about how much better he is or something? I don't understand why someone would disparage teamwork and play on public servers. If teamwork is "not playing the game" he should just be playing singleplayer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1801271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted February 25, 2025 Share Posted February 25, 2025 On 2/18/2025 at 3:41 PM, Mike23Ua said: Because Maxwell has 50hp, doesn’t have a day 1 Beefalo Mount, or ranged slingshots, or a portable and Redeployable healing tent and campfire? Yeah yeah sure Maxwell Strong, whatever… Maxwell is also only considered “strong” because he can do everything he can Do + Everything Wickerbottom can do too. If the guy got his own Woby like storage, it wouldn’t be giving him his own Woby, I don’t care how much Monster Meat or Woby Treats you stash in that hat, it’s not going to suddenly grow in size and levitate Maxwell around the map like riding a Magic Carpet. although.. maybe it SHOULD. 1. 75 HP. Not 50 2. Best character-specific harvesting in the game, best damage in the game, best magic user in the game, a portable inventory, best crowd control in the game, and the best nightmare fuel farmer in the game. Don't try to be coy here Mike. Walter's skill tree isn't even out of the beta branch yet. But if it was, then it still wouldn't be a contest. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1801311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted February 25, 2025 Share Posted February 25, 2025 2 hours ago, Theukon-dos said: 1. 75 HP. Not 50 2. Best character-specific harvesting in the game, best damage in the game, best magic user in the game, a portable inventory, best crowd control in the game, and the best nightmare fuel farmer in the game. Don't try to be coy here Mike. Walter's skill tree isn't even out of the beta branch yet. But if it was, then it still wouldn't be a contest. It’s not meant to be a “contest” it’s meant to give a character who obviously should have X similar feature, X Similar Feature. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/164214-wobby-inventory-lock-for-maxwell-too-please/#findComment-1801351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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