Jakepeng99 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 The player tag is controversial, being argued to make Abigail way to easy to survive, yet i still see people asking for even more survivability. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 You should talk about game in Forum, not people Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaymime Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Just now, SilverSpoon said: Forums should be about games, not people. forums are about how people interact with games? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoton123 Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 MOOOOOREE!!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeWoWa Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, hyoton123 said: MOOOOOREE!!!! YES MORE SURVIVALITY TO ABI! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lardee Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 I'm fairly certain it's just a negotiation tactic. Ask for more than you want in order to trick people into believing you've compromised. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steorra Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Noy enough, Cursed Vex should give 200% extra damage taken to Abi and the Vex effect should rollback from 1.6 to 1.4. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, gaymime said: forums are about how people interact with games? Yes. Forums, or more precisely Beta Forums, are not about how people interact with people. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picklesaurus Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Jakepeng99 said: The player tag is controversial, being argued to make Abigail way to easy to survive, yet i still see people asking for even more survivability. It is on purpose, they are trying to get attention away from how problematic is the current implementation of player tag on abi, this is why you are seeing so many posts being created by them and it is always the same people commenting, some of them empty comments just to keep those posts that try to diverge attention away from player tag up and get the ones talking about how problematic giving player tag to abi is down, they also derail topics and try to change subjects from anything that could bring attention to how problematic the player tag is like they are doing above me in this post you just created. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 i think that if abigail gets a player tag then absoloutely every mob should get a mob tag that reduces player damage by 50%. this would benefit nobody and only make the game worse. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 modders when they keep hearing about this "player tag" nonsense: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 With player tag Abi should be able to vote kick people and help me vote roll back when needed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 17, 2024 Author Share Posted December 17, 2024 15 minutes ago, Picklesaurus said: It is on purpose, they are trying to get attention away from how problematic is the current implementation of player tag on abi, this is why you are seeing so many posts being created by them and it is always the same people commenting, some of them empty comment just to keep those posts that try to diverge attention away from player tag up and get the ones talking about how problematic giving player tag to abi is down, they also derail topics and try to change subjects from anything that could bring attention to how problematic the player tag is like they are doing above me in this post you just created. Yeah. And stuff like "lock this post". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 15 minutes ago, Picklesaurus said: It is on purpose, they are trying to get attention away from how problematic is the current implementation of player tag on abi, this is why you are seeing so many posts being created by them and it is always the same people commenting, some of them empty comment just to keep those posts that try to diverge attention away from player tag up and get the ones talking about how problematic giving player tag to abi is down, they also derail topics and try to change subjects from anything that could bring attention to how problematic the player tag is like they are doing above me in this post you just created. I said as much like several days ago haha. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroban Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 At this point it feels like some people just want Abigail to be inmortal with no potions requirements so they can always have her toggled on aggresive mode to afk farm everything on the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 1 minute ago, kroban said: At this point it feels like some people just want Abigail to be inmortal with no potions requirements so they can always have her toggled on aggresive mode to afk farm everything on the game If you read between the lines, a lot of the Wendy Brigaders just hate elixirs. They hate using them. They hate making them. They hate the pipspook quest to get mourning glories to make them. They STILL hate the pipspook quest, even though its vastly easier and gives more. And you can move pipspook spawners. Due to this, I thought it would be a pretty good compromise if the Sisturn player tag buff also made it so that Abigail couldn't use healing elixirs when it was active. Or they were 50% effective. I am not sure if that's what they actually want, though. Kind of sounds like even the lune blossom collection is too much to ask for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YuRinshue Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 This is like the previous 600 point fake health limit was already fragile enough, but there are still many people demanding to remove the survival ability of Moon Abigail. What is the purpose of many people trying to make Wendy's skill tree the most fragile? Perhaps it is also a viewpoint worth posting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 23 minutes ago, Tranoze said: With player tag Abi should be able to vote kick people and help me vote roll back when needed. Only if Webber counts as 2 votes and Wx counts as zero. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 17, 2024 Author Share Posted December 17, 2024 Just now, Mysterious box said: Only if Webber counts as 2 votes and Wx counts as zero. Wolfgang cant vote either. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 The fact that a thread solely for the purpose of insulting the other side has grown to this extent clearly shows how degenerated we have become recently. It has degenerated to the same level as me who posts such a thread (Of course it was locked.). Considering that I am a clown wearing the crown of fools, that is a pretty low level. Wendy Players had enough self-control that wouldn't beep my clown horn! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted December 17, 2024 Author Share Posted December 17, 2024 Just now, SilverSpoon said: The fact that a thread solely for the purpose of insulting the other side has grown to this extent clearly shows how degenerated we have become recently. It has degenerated to the same level as me who posts such a thread (Of course it was locked.). Considering that I am a clown wearing the crown of fools, that is a pretty low level. Wendy Players had enough self-control that wouldn't beep my clown horn! Im not insulting anyone though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoon Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 Just now, Jakepeng99 said: Im not insulting anyone though. JoeW definitely wouldn't think so. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 I've written out so many replies about this just to discard them for the sake of not starting a dumpster fire forum battle (even if everyone plays nice and gives constructive feedback clashing opinions always lead to uncivil discourse and personal attacks). They will never think it's enough, someone literally suggested to make Abby invincible. I thought klei knew this and that's why they nerfed gestalt Abby but i guess they've been convinced these buffs are justified and so they've given another buff to silence the nerf complaints. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debruh Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said: The fact that a thread solely for the purpose of insulting the other side has grown to this extent clearly shows how degenerated we have become recently. It has degenerated to the same level as me who posts such a thread (Of course it was locked.). Considering that I am a clown wearing the crown of fools, that is a pretty low level. Wendy Players had enough self-control that wouldn't beep my clown horn! Dude, your thread accused everyone that disagrees with of 1) insulting the other side, when from what I have seen it's been the opposite 2) Literally getting pleasure from the pain of others. Also this thread was just created recently. Moderation team are human Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCockroach Posted December 17, 2024 Share Posted December 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, SilverSpoon said: JoeW definitely wouldn't think so. Really? i don't see anything heated so far. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/162602-is-it-not-enough/#findComment-1779637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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