Reiko24 Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 It really does not make any sense. It cannot be put in the salt box, cannot be refreshed by using salt, cannot be put inside Polar Bearger Bin, I don't know... The Polar Bearger Bin I can understand, but why can't we salt our jerky? Or put it inside the salt box?? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOS-Ouroboros-K Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 Glow Berry: Please wait in line. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edible Coal Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 warly salt spice should do the same, makes food twice the fresh Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 I'm still so upset Warly salt spice is so bad, 25% extra health gain at most is only an extra +15 health if you used it on Waffles or something similar. It's good for beefalo healing food I guess, but still, pretty bad generally. My assumption for salt not repairing jerky is that it already had all the water dried out of it, so there's no water for the salt to suck out and restore freshness. I don't know about the saltbox though, keeping it in pure salt to avoid moisture going back in seems reasonable to me. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonboooorn Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 Its funny how jerky lasts less in fridge compared to raw meat put in salt boxes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 Jerky really needs better storage conditions. Bundles just won't do alone, at least having them in salt boxes for a very long preserve would be nice. After all, in right conditions, it can last for basically an extremely long time like any other preserved food. And survivors are smart enough to know more of food security and building things to keep resources last and be stable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 jerky does need some sort of "rework" like, do you see people even makin drying racks? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 38 minutes ago, Echsrick said: jerky does need some sort of "rework" like, do you see people even makin drying racks? Drying racks are so expensive early game, and by the time you'll have the spare grass to make it, you might already have better sources of sanity/health or a saltbox to store meat. it would be cool if Jerky was maybe special in a crockpot, as of right now it's no different than a regular/cooked meat right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 10 minutes ago, Radicaljoe said: Drying racks are so expensive early game, and by the time you'll have the spare grass to make it, you might already have better sources of sanity/health or a saltbox to store meat. it would be cool if Jerky was maybe special in a crockpot, as of right now it's no different than a regular/cooked meat right? actualy you can turn fish into normal meat, wich can be worth something because with fish you cant make meaty stews only surfnturf...even if no turf was used...and it refills less hunger wich is better for some characters like wolfgang, warly, and wortox Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 8 hours ago, Frosty_Mentos said: Jerky really needs better storage conditions. Bundles just won't do alone, at least having them in salt boxes for a very long preserve would be nice. After all, in right conditions, it can last for basically an extremely long time like any other preserved food. And survivors are smart enough to know more of food security and building things to keep resources last and be stable. how won't bundles do? its literally the solution 7 hours ago, Echsrick said: jerky does need some sort of "rework" like, do you see people even makin drying racks? "see" people do it? not really because public servers are a reset-fest of nonsense in single player worlds? yes absolutely I know people who rely on jerky. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 29 minutes ago, Well-met said: "see" people do it? not really because public servers are a reset-fest of nonsense in single player worlds? yes absolutely I know people who rely on jerky. you sure not played on the servers i play on, "reset fest of nonsense" you say that as you are in bad faith of the players rolling back every second day.... single player worlds? thats not the question, and who realy rely on jerky of all things? you got to show me your evidence Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceShiki Posted September 23, 2024 Share Posted September 23, 2024 I use Jerky and Small Jerky when playing with friends. They're useful sources of HP and Sanity, and when your friends are bad at combat and get scared of Treeguards, you tend to run out of Pieroggis all the time no matter how many you make, so having extra sources of it is always welcomed. And when said friends are bad enough at handling Sanity that they actually use stuff like Tents, you tend to appreciate the extra Sanity of the Jerkies and Small Jerkies. Basically, I can understand experienced players finding Jerky and Small Jerky completely useless, but I think they have a purpose in the game. Mostly for players who are old enough to know how to make a Drying Rack, but new enough to still struggle a lot with combat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 2 hours ago, AliceShiki said: I use Jerky and Small Jerky when playing with friends. They're useful sources of HP and Sanity, and when your friends are bad at combat and get scared of Treeguards, you tend to run out of Pieroggis all the time no matter how many you make, so having extra sources of it is always welcomed. Maybe you wouldn't be running out of pierogis if you weren't wasting your meat on jerky. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szczuku Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 I still make jerky. The fact that other foods exist doesn't take away from the benefits of jerky Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 24, 2024 Author Share Posted September 24, 2024 6 hours ago, Bumber64 said: Maybe you wouldn't be running out of pierogis if you weren't wasting your meat on jerky. true 19 hours ago, Radicaljoe said: My assumption for salt not repairing jerky is that it already had all the water dried out of it, so there's no water for the salt to suck out and restore freshness. I don't know about the saltbox though, keeping it in pure salt to avoid moisture going back in seems reasonable to me. There's always some moisture left, unless you use a vacuum chamber, which the survivors do not have. The salt also not only sucks out water that bacteria need, it disrupts electrolyte balance between their cell and the surroundings. It also alters the pH and disrupts cellular function in high doses. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 19 hours ago, Dragonboooorn said: Its funny how jerky lasts less in fridge compared to raw meat put in salt boxes. On related note. Idk what upsets me more: Being able to put sweet fruit in salt boxes. Ew. Or honey actually spoiling this fast in DST. Honey should have shelf life similar to a Powder Cake. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 13 minutes ago, ALCRD said: On related note. Idk what upsets me more: Being able to put sweet fruit in salt boxes. Ew. Or honey actually spoiling this fast in DST. Honey should have shelf life similar to a Powder Cake. you should try fruit or chocolate with a little of salt. Salt is a flavor potentiator, doesnt have flavor by its own is commonly use for cakes or muffins so they taste better Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 24, 2024 Author Share Posted September 24, 2024 43 minutes ago, ALCRD said: On related note. Idk what upsets me more: Being able to put sweet fruit in salt boxes. Ew. Or honey actually spoiling this fast in DST. Honey should have shelf life similar to a Powder Cake. salt makes sweetness stronger, that's why salted caramel is a thing Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALCRD Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Reiko24 said: salt makes sweetness stronger, that's why salted caramel is a thing Not the same. A little bit of salt is used in caramel and things like sweet pastries. Now dunk bunch of fresh juicy berries in salt barrel and leave it for a day or two then eat them and tell me how "sweet" they taste. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiko24 Posted September 24, 2024 Author Share Posted September 24, 2024 33 minutes ago, ALCRD said: Not the same. A little bit of salt is used in caramel and things like sweet pastries. Now dunk bunch of fresh juicy berries in salt barrel and leave it for a day or two then eat them and tell me how "sweet" they taste. yeah true Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOS-Ouroboros-K Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 5 hours ago, ALCRD said: Not the same. A little bit of salt is used in caramel and things like sweet pastries. Now dunk bunch of fresh juicy berries in salt barrel and leave it for a day or two then eat them and tell me how "sweet" they taste. Removing water with salt helps to sense sweetness. One common case: watermelon. Spoiler Wait, we don't have any dried fruit? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 5 hours ago, SOS-Ouroboros-K said: Removing water with salt helps to sense sweetness. One common case: watermelon. Hide contents Wait, we don't have any dried fruit? Trail mix is presumably dried. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted September 25, 2024 Share Posted September 25, 2024 There's a lot of things that should be able to go in a saltbox but can't unfortunately Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyone Posted September 25, 2024 Share Posted September 25, 2024 On 9/23/2024 at 10:44 AM, Echsrick said: jerky does need some sort of "rework" like, do you see people even makin drying racks? I like making 6 to 8 , mostly as a way to preserve rotting meats and monster meats. Then when jerky sometimes gets in the red expiring range I usually just turn them into meaty stews or whatever really. Good way to buy some extra time with spoilage imo. Also I always carry a stack of fresh jerky in my "emergency" Bundling Wrap stash. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethin Posted September 25, 2024 Share Posted September 25, 2024 Jerky is just a way to extend your meat shelf life even more. You use your almost spoiled meat in your salt boxes to extend the shelf life even more. The nice stats is just an extra bonus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159916-why-cant-we-use-salt-to-make-jerky-more-fresh/#findComment-1750604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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