Gytre Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 As late game item ice crystaleyezer sucks, polar bearger bin and howlitzer are so much better than it, there are better alternatives to prevent wildfires which don't freeze you to death and are cheaper like oasis and above average trees. To make it better i have some suggestions: increase its range, make it prevent fire from occurring in its range, reduce freezing because its too strong, it should turn raining into snowing, make it freeze water like crabking or Steve (frostjaw) arena, make winona hotlight skill work in its radius, make gloomthorn grow in its range in any season. As it stands ice crystaleyezer is niche late game item only usable by wurt which is sad these changes are small but make it better. If you have any suggestions comment below. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
_RG_ Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 While I like ice crystaleyezer in its current form, I wouldn't mind adding the features listed above. It would also be great to consider another one. At the moment, it does not in any way prevent fire caused by a star after using star caller's staff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdsaax Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 3 hours ago, Gytre said: freeze you to death Just wear tam'o'shanter Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 Theres really a whole plethora of small tweaks/ideas that would make this thing awesome. Personally i do think its underpowered currently, but not by much. I just think it needs something small Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DegenerateFurry Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 Wait, it doesn't already prevent fires from occurring? I thought that was the whole point of it aside from any-season ice production. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 14 minutes ago, DegenerateFurry said: Wait, it doesn't already prevent fires from occurring? I thought that was the whole point of it aside from any-season ice production. It does pretty sure Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sesekriri Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 4 hours ago, Gytre said: ands ice crystaleyezer is niche late game item only usable by wurt which is sad these changes are small but make it better. How is it uniquely useable by Wurt? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 I never had issues with the crystaleyezer. It might be only mid in megabase protection wise and requires maintenance, but so does many other things and it's mostly just to make summer feel like winter. I wear tamoshanter and have scaled furnaces prepped up so it would be more manageable. The protection it provides during summer is great, but there's also things like antlion to manage and outer range wildfires to handle. I personally love it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 30 minutes ago, Sesekriri said: How is it uniquely useable by Wurt? Probably reffering to the sunfish. Lasts longer with Wurt and basicly ignores the crystaleyzers cold outside the very center Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 I don't like that thing because I really don’t understand what it does, and what it doesn’t. The rules feel a bit all over the top, and it certainly doesn’t do a proper winter replication in its range. All I get from it is freezing because I don’t want to wear winter insulators during summer in some spaces and not in others, but I would use it for other applications if I was 100% certain this thing makes other parts behave as if it was winter. Rn it’s just confusing and unpractical to figure what I can use it for considering I'll need to reload the spark and all that if I destroy it because turns out what I wanted to do somewhere didn’t work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gytre Posted September 3, 2024 Author Share Posted September 3, 2024 Just now, DegenerateFurry said: Wait, it doesn't already prevent fires from occurring? I thought that was the whole point of it aside from any-season ice production. Just now, gamehun20 said: It does pretty sure I mean it should extinguish fires in range Just now, Sesekriri said: How is it uniquely useable by Wurt? Wurt can use sunfish for 5 or 6 days so you don't have any downside Just now, Frosty_Mentos said: I never had issues with the crystaleyezer. It might be only mid in megabase protection wise and requires maintenance, but so does many other things and it's mostly just to make summer feel like winter. I wear tamoshanter and have scaled furnaces prepped up so it would be more manageable. The protection it provides during summer is great, but there's also things like antlion to manage and outer range wildfires to handle. I personally love it. Maybe I worded it badly but I mean that ice crystaleyezer as end game item is bad i don't have that much problem with his downside but it doesn't have much upsides over oasis and above average trees and for small bases ice flingo isn't so bad Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 Nope, the structure is good. Could perhaps use a minor tweak but not necessarily. It is good and quirky just like a well designed end-game item ought to be. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 I just want snow in the ground arround active ones I like stuff having benefits and downsides, is more interesting than simply having ethernal solutions without futher player's imput than building it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted September 3, 2024 Share Posted September 3, 2024 I'd prefer if it would drop my temp to like 5 if I'm in the radius instead of going past freezing. I understand it's supposed to be a way to beat summer heat, but it makes the base just as, if not more unlivable in the summer if I have one of these active in my base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 11 hours ago, Gytre said: Maybe I worded it badly but I mean that ice crystaleyezer as end game item is bad i don't have that much problem with his downside but it doesn't have much upsides over oasis and above average trees and for small bases ice flingo isn't so bad It is a good oasis extension if you hate oasis itself imo. Cause I don't like living in oasis due to sandstorm and accidents I've had, oasis is powerful but I don't like it personally enough to want to make eye crystaleyezers, cave base or not be in my base during summer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Rage Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 11 hours ago, Radicaljoe said: I'd prefer if it would drop my temp to like 5 if I'm in the radius instead of going past freezing. I understand it's supposed to be a way to beat summer heat, but it makes the base just as, if not more unlivable in the summer if I have one of these active in my base. Even when wearing insulating gear and spacing out the structures you mean? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted September 4, 2024 Share Posted September 4, 2024 4 hours ago, Captain_Rage said: Even when wearing insulating gear and spacing out the structures you mean? I mean, yea there are ways to deal with the crystalizer, but it's just trading my eyebrella for a beefalo hat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1745733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraHAmmER Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 I hate the icebergs... The ice crystaleyezer looks beautiful itself. It's a very good decoration. But the icebergs will occupy too much space and I have to clear them using campfire from time to time. It will be a disaster for pastoral style of architecture. Quote On 9/3/2024 at 8:21 PM, Gytre said: reduce freezing because its too strong, And I agree with this one. If we want to put the ice crystaleyezer in our home, we have to place a lot of scaled furnaces to balance the freezing temperature. And too many scaled furnaces in our home looks ugly. Compared with the other two items the bin and howlitzer, the ice crystaleyezer looks somewhat funny. The bin is a marvelous item during late game. The howlitzer helps consume the excessively accumulated hound teeth. But the crystaleyezer is so hard to use... By the way I have another idea. What if we add some abilities to the ice crystaleyezer? Just like the deerclops during winter's feast. Make the ice crystaleyezer able to shoot red lazer. We can use it to defend hounds (it will cost too much, but I don't care, red lazer is awesome) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1746141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybers2001 Posted September 6, 2024 Share Posted September 6, 2024 On 9/4/2024 at 8:49 AM, Radicaljoe said: I mean, yea there are ways to deal with the crystalizer, but it's just trading my eyebrella for a beefalo hat. I always saw crystalizer as more of a way to prevent smoldering than as a way to keep the player from overheating. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1746175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted September 7, 2024 Share Posted September 7, 2024 Nice profile. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1746447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshyds Posted September 9, 2024 Share Posted September 9, 2024 ice crystalizer should freeze water around it, that way it could have an interesting use in making a minibase far out in the ocean. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1746719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroban Posted September 9, 2024 Share Posted September 9, 2024 On 9/3/2024 at 9:21 AM, Gytre said: make winona hotlight skill work in its radius, Hotlight does work in its radius, Its keeps the temperature at like 35°, the only issue is that doesn't work on the inner ring with the frozen floor. But I have seen this because last endless I used only Winona and also one of my friends was playing her too Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1746720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radicaljoe Posted September 9, 2024 Share Posted September 9, 2024 1 hour ago, kroban said: Hotlight does work in its radius, Its keeps the temperature at like 35°, the only issue is that doesn't work on the inner ring with the frozen floor. But I have seen this because last endless I used only Winona and also one of my friends was playing her too False It only worked at night when I tried it, and the following morning it shut off again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/159476-ice-crystaleyezer-is-kinda-bad/#findComment-1746731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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