What items is the recipe scanner good for?

[marshyds]

Right now im playing winona and having trouble figuring out how useful the recipe scanner is for things that aren't the new items, so any pointers toward what i should scan early?

Stuff i really agree with, but havent tested.

- Fish food and other pearl exclusive stuff (Don't have to visit grandma anymore, you neglectful grandchild.)

- Ruins chair (No danger in low sanity land, don't have to search for the lazy man)

- Life giving amulet (If you dont feel like rushing a magic station, you can just use graves to make more life amulets early for whatever reason.)

- Turf (Don't have to craft stuff at the raiser first, a post iridescent gem item.)

- Bundling wrap FROM KLAUS. (An easier fight than bee queen, atleast early.)

- The silly lil crank to repair W.O.B.O.T (even though you can just make winbots...)

I feel like if the remote could scan ruins items or lunar crafting station stuff then it would be a godlike item...

[HeatAndRun]

It's not early-game items, but try these.

[ADM]

I see it as a multiplayer thing. It's awesome to need 1 less blueprint on the server for every boss locked recipes, especially for early Bundle Wraps or Dreadstone Armors.

This is so good that would make me wish she can give the scanner to another player to use instead as long as they use it quick.

[Frashaw27]

-Life Giving Amulets found by digging up graves
-Nightmare Fuel for the recipe as the way to craft it naturally is kinda of pain imo (this one also the most uneeded)
-Pig and Bunnymen Houses
-Most things from boons or doing the normal plays
-Any turf, the most useful being Cobblestones
-If you bring one/a few to the ruins you could get spears, log suits, football helmets, more realistically a bat bat

-Nightmare Armor and Dark Sword from the Chess Pieces
 

That's about all I can think of. I think the recipe scanner is fairly useful but it does fall off as the time where you'd use it doesn't have too many options of worth to scan. And when there are good items to scan, your more then likely just have the things to make it with the standard crafting. Thus it mostly relies on how much you want to ***** making stuff on your own with things you just randomly get and things you get from boons.

[lowercase skye]

You can scan Klaus's bundled supplies before opening them and you'll get the recipe for bundling wraps. Scanning a chair in the ruins also gives you a head start on Pearl's tasks without having to dip into dangerously low sanity to kill the sitting horror.

[marshyds]

50 minutes ago, Frashaw27 said:

If you bring one/a few to the ruins you could get spears, log suits, football helmets, more realistically a bat bat

I don't mean to be rude, but who goes to the ruins without making an alchemy engine first?

Other than that i think the best suggestion of yours is the life amulet.

[Mike23Ua]

It’s a mostly useless item that takes up inventory slots and doesn’t give the player even the vaguest of clues what it’s used for.

The only known use that I’ve had for it so far is scanning the broken Wobot in the Scrapyard to unlock Winbot crafting recipe. 

Im not actually sure WHAT this items intended use is..

But sadly Winona’s entire skill tree is like that.

What are scrap, and unstable doohickeys good for?!?!

[Uedo]

42 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

It’s a mostly useless item that takes up inventory slots and doesn’t give the player even the vaguest of clues what it’s used for.

The only known use that I’ve had for it so far is scanning the broken Wobot in the Scrapyard to unlock Winbot crafting recipe. 

Im not actually sure WHAT this items intended use is..

But sadly Winona’s entire skill tree is like that.

What are scrap, and unstable doohickeys good for?!?!

Read the above posts please, everyone has been very clear.

[Evelo]

19 hours ago, HeatAndRun said:

It's not early-game items, but try these.

How do you get most of these items before crafting them yourself (solo)? Like the Napsack would be incredible but you can't get one until after you craft one so what's the point?
I will agree with the various lures though since you can get them at random from Pearl.

16 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Im not actually sure WHAT this items intended use is..

But sadly Winona’s entire skill tree is like that.

What are scrap, and unstable doohickeys good for?!?!

If you take the second skill you can create a teleporter pad and a teleportation umbrella by using the scanners on unknown parts that come from advanced caches.

Gizmos are used to craft these advanced items. doohickeys are used for WINbot (3 each). Scrap is used to activate Celestial Champion and some post rift stuffs, as well as is an ingredient for WINbot (8 each).

The scanner is useful in very niche scenarios outside of her 3 unique recipes, which is what this entire thread is about.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Evelo said:

How do you get most of these items before crafting them yourself (solo)? Like the Napsack would be incredible but you can't get one until after you craft one so what's the point?
I will agree with the various lures though since you can get them at random from Pearl.

If you take the second skill you can create a teleporter pad and a teleportation umbrella by using the scanners on unknown parts that come from advanced caches.

Gizmos are used to craft these advanced items. doohickeys are used for WINbot (3 each). Scrap is used to activate Celestial Champion and some post rift stuffs, as well as is an ingredient for WINbot (8 each).

The scanner is useful in very niche scenarios outside of her 3 unique recipes, which is what this entire thread is about.

Okay well see my Winona skill tree looks like THIS: 

And with THIS I can find the Caches with Wagstaffs head Helmet thing, but OUTSIDE of creating a WINbot with your skill tree set up like THIS you have no actual Day to Day use for Scrap, or Unstable Doohickeys.

They aren’t even used for useful things like repairing a broken down catapult OR as Fuel to power the Cache locating helmet..

They kinda just go to ONE Teleportation Pad Perk that I don’t even have a skill point spec’d within??

However it’s still worthwhile to take up the helmet perk even without the heavily associated Teleporter Pad, for the Free Electrical Doodads.

[Evelo]

11 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

OUTSIDE of creating a WINbot with your skill tree set up like THIS you have no actual Day to Day use for Scrap, or Unstable Doohickeys.

1 hour ago, Evelo said:

Scrap is used to activate Celestial Champion and some post rift stuffs,

Yes, doohickeys are ONLY for WINbot. So... don't pick them up if you don't want additional WINbots, they disappear after a short period of time so no worries about the clutter.

As for Scrap, you need 8 to summon the Celestial Champion. If you really dislike them and consider it clutter, throw them in the ocean. They sink.

If it matters, this is my skill choices. (I detest the Celestial Portal, as you might know, so I don't care if I will likely never utilize 3 of these skills because it allows me to not use what I hate most about this game.)

Hope that helps.

Lastly, you can make multiple WINbots. so if you like automation, it's pretty nice.

[Mike23Ua]

12 minutes ago, Evelo said:

Yes, doohickeys are ONLY for WINbot. So... don't pick them up if you don't want additional WINbots, they disappear after a short period of time so no worries about the clutter.

As for Scrap, you need 8 to summon the Celestial Champion. If you really dislike them and consider it clutter, throw them in the ocean. They sink.

If it matters, this is my skill choices. (I detest the Celestial Portal, as you might know, so I don't care if I will likely never utilize 3 of these skills because it allows me to not use what I hate most about this game.)

Hope that helps.

Lastly, you can make multiple WINbots. so if you like automation, it's pretty nice.

Yes Winbot, but all the other stuff is late game, and only useful after you open the rifts up right? so a Day 1 Winona has no actual immediate use for Scrap or Unstable Doohickeys (outside of Winbot) 

[Evelo]

6 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Yes Winbot, but all the other stuff is late game, and only useful after you open the rifts up right? so a Day 1 Winona has no actual immediate use for Scrap or Unstable Doohickeys (outside of Winbot) 

Yes, correct. (Well the walls but they are walls so yknow.) You don't have to wear the helmet 24/7. Just some nice stuff if you are lookin to craft WINbot or need some scrap and don't want to fight the Scrappy Werepig every time for later stuff.

[Zima Blue]

21 hours ago, finn from human said:

You can scan Klaus's bundled supplies before opening them and you'll get the recipe for bundling wraps.

Oh my god I never thought of this, this is genius lol Although playing as Winona I always kill bee queen before Winter, it's really cool to know this! 

[Ugur01]

If you are playing a character other than Winona. You can scan it to get the auto-mat-o-chanic recipe and use it to repair wobot. It can normally be obtained by opening lunar rifts. However, with the scan item, you can get the recipe early and switch to the character you want to play.

[cybers2001]

Very useful early game for duping bundle wrap blueprint, napsack, dragonscale furnace, etc.

Can use it on sea fishing rods and heavy-weight lures, as those are easy to obtain from sunken chests.

If nothing else, start researching turfs with it.

[ShadowDuelist]

I scanned while playing alone:

- Life giving amulets
- The Winbot
- auto-mat-o-chanic since i got the item and not the blueprint
- Pig houses and bunny houses
- Cobblestone
- Pearl’s heavy fish lure and some other fishing gear I found around.
- The panflute
- Ice staves found in the ruins and the batbat

At the time I tried to scan Klaus’s bundled gifts it didn’t work, but maybe they changed that with the last patch. I got it from BQ shortly after klaus anyway. As others pointed out, depending on the setpieces you find around the world you could get a more interesting recipes, like moggles, miner’s hat, walking cane, boat parts you haven’t researched if you are still in the rowing phase, etc.

For multiplayer you can know how to make anything another player has before you, which is amazing.

BTW  @Mike23Ua you can skip the whole speedy catapults and replace them with just one point in barrage, if you keep activating it every 10 seconds, they shoot a lot faster than having the 3 points in speed and no barrage.
Also the excess scrap can be used for scrap walls (they appear in the alchemy station, its not a special recipe) which are far stronger walls you can use, and are almost free to make for Winona.

[cybers2001]

12 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Okay well see my Winona skill tree looks like THIS: 

And with THIS I can find the Caches with Wagstaffs head Helmet thing, but OUTSIDE of creating a WINbot with your skill tree set up like THIS you have no actual Day to Day use for Scrap, or Unstable Doohickeys.

They aren’t even used for useful things like repairing a broken down catapult OR as Fuel to power the Cache locating helmet..

They kinda just go to ONE Teleportation Pad Perk that I don’t even have a skill point spec’d within??

However it’s still worthwhile to take up the helmet perk even without the heavily associated Teleporter Pad, for the Free Electrical Doodads.

This looks like a "I just want to play the old Winona" build to me. No portability? No remote? No planar damage?

[Mike23Ua]

16 minutes ago, cybers2001 said:

This looks like a "I just want to play the old Winona" build to me. No portability? No remote? No planar damage?

The remote skills all collectively suck on Xbox, and Planar/Shadow stuff requires activating rift content to get the ingredients needed for those skills.

Skills that you won’t spec into, unless you can reliably obtain Pure Brilliance/Pure Horror.

If there’s one thing I hate the MOST about Winona’s rework, it’s anything and everything to do with the PC friendly Remote targeting.

Another thing I should mention from playing exclusively on lights out mode is that the Button to Disassamble Winonas Spotlights & the button to set fire to structures while holding a torch in hand are both assigned to the B Button.

Yes I lit a Spotlight on fire trying to hold a torch and disassemble it.

Ive learned to now just wear miners hats before disassembly but the point still makes itself clear-

Klei does not Optimize DST with console players in mind.

[Evelo]

13 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

The remote skills all collectively suck on Xbox,

I feel that. I play on PC but because of my disability I tend to only use barrage. I have targeting for niche scenarios that allow me to take a lot of extra time without being rushed. (ie shooting a marotter den that is in the way, shooting a spider den once from afar, etc) The barrage skill I do recommend though, (it lasts 20 seconds not 10) Idk how it works on consoles but it shouldn't be hard to use as you just click and click at least on PC.

[lowercase skye]

1 hour ago, ShadowDuelist said:

At the time I tried to scan Klaus’s bundled gifts it didn’t work, but maybe they changed that with the last patch.

Yeah I think this only started working after the update that made ruins furniture count for the replica ruins furniture blueprints, I'm not sure if there's some system in place to check for similar prefabs (since bundled supplies and bundling wraps are technically two entirely different items) or if it's hardcoded, but it definitely works now!

[wormwood123]

On 7/14/2024 at 7:54 AM, Mike23Ua said:

Yes Winbot, but all the other stuff is late game, and only useful after you open the rifts up right? so a Day 1 Winona has no actual immediate use for Scrap or Unstable Doohickeys (outside of Winbot) 

 Winona never has or will have a day 1 use and that is perfectly fine, she does not need one. And even then not that many skills are based off of post rift content. and the skills post rifts are fine and should exist as every other character that has a skill tree has post rift content

[cybers2001]

On 7/14/2024 at 1:02 PM, finn from human said:

Yeah I think this only started working after the update that made ruins furniture count for the replica ruins furniture blueprints, I'm not sure if there's some system in place to check for similar prefabs (since bundled supplies and bundling wraps are technically two entirely different items) or if it's hardcoded, but it definitely works now!

Wait, so I can scan all the different relics instead of using the metheus chest now?

[wormwood123]

23 hours ago, cybers2001 said:

Wait, so I can scan all the different relics instead of using the metheus chest now?

yup