Give me your Wickerbottom spell tips/tricks.

[Riddla]

Got some cool tricks and tips to share using Wickerbottom books? Some application of a spell that influenced your gameplan a lot, or just spotted unusual & fun scenarios to use spells in?
Post 'em here, I would really love to hear them out!



 

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did i make this thread because jakepeng made one for wurt? maaaaaybe :3 :3 :3

 

[RainBO_OM]

best tip for recipe book: don't even try explain it's effect to new players

[Cheggf]

The Everything Encyclopedia does not have a timer and can stack its charges. You can read it repeatedly to permanently gain however many uses of being able to prototype something. They're only lost when you actually prototype something that required the book's knowledge to prototype.

[Lovens]

1 hour ago, Riddla said:

Got some cool tricks and tips to share using Wickerbottom books? Some application of a spell that influenced your gameplan a lot, or just spotted unusual & fun scenarios to use spells in?
Post 'em here, I would really love to hear them out!



 

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did i make this thread because jakepeng made one for wurt? maaaaaybe :3 :3 :3

 

Rain book and Oasis desert: lots of fun interactions there! First of all, calling in the rain after the sandstorm has begun causes several things to happen: 

• The sandstorm overlay goes away;
• Water from the Oasis lake disappears;
• Antlion, if it exists still and is currently not engaged in the fight, goes back underground (it doesn't like wetness). 

Summer rains are usually short but they still make the world a bit wet, so the sandstorm doesn't resume right away after the rain stops. If you base in the Oasis but absolutely hate the sandstorm, it's a good way to avoid it. 

Secondly, after the storm resumes, a few things happen as well:

• The sandstorm overlay will be back, obviously;
• The lake will fill up with water again;
• Up to three new fireflies will generate inside of the lake if there were none before;
• Up to 18 succulents will spawn around the lake, depending on the surroundings (less or none will spawn if you didn't pick the previous ones) ;
• Antlion will spawn from under the ground in its dedicated spot, with its rage timer reset. 

You can manipulate these mechanics to repeatedly harvest fireflies and succulents from the lake at night by starting and stopping the rain. As a bonus, every time you do this, Antlion will be reset and shouldn't bother you with earthquakes. If you choose to fight Antlion, you could feed it a cold thermal and then read the rain book once it's frozen. The storm overlay will be gone but Antlion won't despawn if engaged in the fight - so you can now fight it without the sandstorm! Finally, as an additional bonus, rain in summer prevents wildfires everywhere on the map (not just in the Oasis). It's helpful if you need to leave your Oasis base but don't want things on the edge of it burn offscreen as you walk by into another biome. 

 

Additional cool things about the rain book not related to Oasis:

• It can stop both frog rain and acid rain (it works in both shards but need to be read in the respective shard. In other words, to cancel rain underground you need to read it underground);
• If read in the beginning of the Winter underground, everything in the caves will stay wet until the end of winter. It's great for fighting Toadstool with electric damage, especially if you are doing a Misery variant. Note: acid rain will cancel world's wetness even if a normal rain happened in winter. Cave rifts really mess up this mechanic sadly. 
• If read by farm plots, nearby farm plots will also be watered. Crop farm is a great place for a book cabinet since you can also store farming books in it. 
• Rain on demand is great for Pearl's umbrella queat. Also makes rain lure work better (duh);
• Rain makes birds land around you more often. Good if you are collecting seeds for farming books. 

[Copyafriend]

Most magical books are not generally worth the effort to craft them. (yes this is advice not bashing)

 

unless you are making an arena, the lux books are a bad idea, it is almost always better to simply work through the night with a lantern than to sit in one spot with the books.

however a niche use for the lux books is creating earthquakes on purpose, maybe allowing for an inefficient gem or mineral farm/slurtles

the best craft you can make with your starter papyrus is the everything encyclopedia, you should make a science machine early to stack with this aswell for easy magic crafts.

the rain rituals are good for automatically watering crops if desired, it also fully waters crops you are standing on top of instantly, it also works in the caves allowing for acid rain cancelation post rifts.

the lunar grimoire changes the lunar cycle completely, the current night will be full moon, and the next one will be a waning gibbous, this obviously allows instant full moons, but also can speed up the next new moon if the moon is currently waxing (important for the shadow pieces fight)

tentacles will not spawn on walls, so you can create safe platforms out of knocked down (not hammered, purposefully destroyed with a weapon) walls that you can stand on to make a safe platform.

apicultural notes are good for handling enemies that can only attack one creature at a time, but is unreliable if planning on moving between shards, kill them before entering or leaving the cave, or they might be hostile when you come back.

 

[Lovens]

Here's another interesting interaction: if you need to collect seeds without waiting for the birds to bring them to you, the fastest way would be to read Birds of the world at night on the Lunar Island. Usually people do a Krampus/feather farm there but during the night birds don't stay - they will fly away immediately after landing. It's a disadvantage for farming Krampii but good for farming seeds. They should leave at least two seeds each time they fly away and you don't have to wait till they sit there before dropping the seed - it happens immediately. Pick up the seeds, repeat. On a decently long night you can farm almost a full stack of seeds this way. Good for mass producing farming books. 

[Jakepeng99]

If you have an easy way to kill them, on tentacles is an amazing way to get food. Keep in mind they have less chance to drop spots.

Use the full moon book to refresh woodie's were timer. This can help woodie when exploring using the goose form. I wonder if you can make woodie permantly stay in goose form in lights out?

[DegenerateFurry]

Lux Aeterna/Redux cause crops to grow at night.

[DinsdaleP]

Wickerbottom can kill Crab King in a quite interesting way, all credit goes to Jazzy.

Is it easier than just dropping 40 extremely disoriented killer bees down in the middle of the ocean and letting them have their way with the boss? Eh, not really. It is fun, though.

[Ohan]

only play in juicy berry worlds with quad goose setpiece. 

on tentacles is ur best book, get creative! It can farm a lot of different mobs for u. 

Ornery beef is very beneficial. Keeps u safe when reading and u can generate heaps of healing food for it with hort/silv. 

If ur swamp has few reed plants make sure to get silviculture early in ur first autumn so u can stock up papyrus before winter. 

Tamoshanter + puffyvest (and later bearger vest) + Tempering Temps is great for winter. 

U can stockpile jellybeans like crazy so u can just use them for anything. Like fully tanking klaus fire spell on a beef with scalemail. 

U can use bearger all year round. 

If u tame a beef u really dont need anything from the ruins until u want to do like afw/moonstone event. I prefer to devote my first autumn to beef, BQ, a lot of papyrus farming, dfly and base set up like drying racks. 
Once u do get to the ruins though make sure to bring back a forager (or multiple) to gather loot from tentacle traps. 

2 hours ago, DinsdaleP said:

Wickerbottom can kill Crab King in a quite interesting way, all credit goes to Jazzy.

Temperings Temps defrosting entities was actually only added after i suggested it during refresh beta, specifically referencing CK 

[_zwb]

14 hours ago, Lovens said:

Here's another interesting interaction: if you need to collect seeds without waiting for the birds to bring them to you, the fastest way would be to read Birds of the world at night on the Lunar Island. Usually people do a Krampus/feather farm there but during the night birds don't stay - they will fly away immediately after landing. It's a disadvantage for farming Krampii but good for farming seeds. They should leave at least two seeds each time they fly away and you don't have to wait till they sit there before dropping the seed - it happens immediately. Pick up the seeds, repeat. On a decently long night you can farm almost a full stack of seeds this way. Good for mass producing farming books. 

You could use a powder monkey to pick up seeds, speeds things up

[Riddla]

In extremely desperate scenarios, you can spam Lux Aeterna to summon earthquakes in caves for rocks, flint, gold, nitre, and sometimes red/blue gems + marble.

[Jakepeng99]

You can use the end is night for earth quakes.

 

You can use it under a waterlogged tree for twigs and grass. (Not worth)

[shaurun]

I love ro use Wicketbottom to punish griefers on servers with PvP off.

method 1:

The End is Nigh! - all you need is rush a rain hat so lightnig will not strike you, and a red gem.

method 2:

On tentacles - rush collecting tentacle spots. 

 

Regarding gramble bees book, I personally avoif it's usage since 1) bees will die from heat damage if you set objects on fire, forcing you to use firepits. 2) the sounds they make is so noisy I can't handle it.

[PiggsburyReal]

Lategame, wickerbottom's the best character for mass producing tons and tons of rocks in a short timespan. Just plant stone fruit in any quantity divisible by 10 and fill a bookcase with 8+ horticulture abridged books, then start reading until all stone fruit plants have fruited and start picking them. Repeat this process until you either run out of rot to re-fertilize the bushes or all your books have deteriorated to the point where reading any will break them, and start using gunpowder to blow all the fruits up for rocks and ripe fruit

Really great if you plan on using statues/sculptures as unbreakable walls later on, as well as for winona catapult areas

[GenomeSquirrel]

On 2/20/2024 at 4:24 PM, shaurun said:

I love ro use Wicketbottom to punish griefers on servers with PvP off.

method 1:

The End is Nigh! - all you need is rush a rain hat so lightnig will not strike you, and a red gem.

method 2:

On tentacles - rush collecting tentacle spots. 

 

Regarding gramble bees book, I personally avoif it's usage since 1) bees will die from heat damage if you set objects on fire, forcing you to use firepits. 2) the sounds they make is so noisy I can't handle it.

the end is nigh is an effective griefing tool on it's own, and the stunning makes preventive measures like Willow's new vacuum ineffective

[Valase]

Here's mine.

You can craft almost every item that can be prototyped with The Everything Encyclopedia + the bookcase (the only exception are the lures from the fishing tab);

The tentacles are a great way to kill the moslings while you kill the moose/goose, You can even use Overcoming aracnophobia on top of the moslings path so they cant escape as easily;

Overcoming aracnophobia can be used in the Minotaur fight to slow him and make him be stunned for even longer (I saw that in some video);

The bee book is great for sailing, as the bees will attack cookie cutters beneath them, and can be used with a ice staff or boomerang vs monkeys and sea weeds;

you can use the light books + the rain book to quickly grow giant veggies;

Also, I do recommend having a bookcase in your boat with the rain book, light book, bee book and not-fire book.

[Cheggf]

1 hour ago, PigsonReal said:

Lategame, wickerbottom's the best character for mass producing tons and tons of rocks in a short timespan. Just plant stone fruit in any quantity divisible by 10 and fill a bookcase with 8+ horticulture abridged books, then start reading until all stone fruit plants have fruited and start picking them. Repeat this process until you either run out of rot to re-fertilize the bushes or all your books have deteriorated to the point where reading any will break them, and start using gunpowder to blow all the fruits up for rocks and ripe fruit

Really great if you plan on using statues/sculptures as unbreakable walls later on, as well as for winona catapult areas

I think you can use a lureplant to greatly speed up this process. I know you can with twigs, grass, and lichen, but I'm not 100% positive on stone fruit bushes.

35 minutes ago, Valase said:

Overcoming aracnophobia can be used in the Minotaur fight to slow him and make him be stunned for even longer (I saw that in some video);

Does it just like slow his animation speed down so the stun lasts longer?

[arubaro]

4 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

I think you can use a lureplant to greatly speed up this process. I know you can with twigs, grass, and lichen, but I'm not 100% positive on stone fruit bushes

Yes but only useful if you have the sprouds that dont need fertilization, otherwise would be annoying to fertilize them with the eyes messing arround

5 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Does it just like slow his animation speed down so the stun lasts longer?

Since ag stun time is based on how much time was charging, if he goes slower the stun last longer. One would think that is based on the distance

I guess something similar but less impactful could be done with the slowing effect of ice staves but i think AG gets completely freeze after just 1 hit

[DinsdaleP]

1 hour ago, Cheggf said:

I think you can use a lureplant to greatly speed up this process. I know you can with twigs, grass, and lichen, but I'm not 100% positive on stone fruit bushes.

Lureplant can harvest stone fruit bushes, but it's extremely wonky without books, because they have multiple growth stages, so you can't just build a lureplant farm down in the caves, they won't progress from one stage to the next until you load them in... and even with books, the basic plants are only good for three harvests.

For the method mentioned above, the best option is funnily enough using Maxwell in the lunar island/grotto and harvesting via shadow servants. Credit goes to Jazzy for this trick, it also works with fertilizer this way.

[grm9]

7 hours ago, Cheggf said:

Does it just like slow his animation speed down so the stun lasts longer?

animation is unrelated to movement speed, slowing down the animation doesn't affect movement speed, it just reduces how many units he moves through per frame

[Mahoood]

Cryptic pasta: 

Wicker:

 

Blowdart farm 

Krampus sack farm (4x4 turf) at least 2+ not 2 away from water or puffins

Reeds

Beequeen

Moose gooses

Kickstart gardening farms 

Varg farm 

Treeguards

Rocks/scales farm with dfly 

Fish farms 

Redux aterna grows plants in the night

Infinitely stack knowledge book + skip magic tier with science machine 

Bee books for combat 

15 “natural” stone fruit bushes and 15 lureplants for power farming 

Sleeping twins, BQ with sleepy time stories 

Overcoming arachnophobia vs hounds,monkeys, FW

Rain book rush from pearl dropped feather gift 

Can read aterna book in grotto for carrats and stone fruit from earthquake 

 

-Also both woodie and willow have “bonehelm” synergy with wicker and max

 

-horticulture will only affect plants that are picked. if you want to grow the glow berries and not the light bulbs, just don't pick the light bulbs

 

-Sleeping, slowing down, and fire pen + bees vs toadstool 

[ButterStuffed]

On 2/17/2024 at 8:35 PM, Lovens said:

If read in the beginning of the Winter underground, everything in the caves will stay wet until the end of winter.

Is this because moisture doesn’t evaporate when it’s cold enough or is there some unique property in the caves that allows this to happen?

If this can be replicated on the surface then it could be possible to have the farms watered for most of Winter.

[Lovens]

4 minutes ago, ButterStuffed said:

Is this because moisture doesn’t evaporate when it’s cold enough or is there some unique property in the caves that allows this to happen?

If this can be replicated on the surface then it could be possible to have the farms watered for most of Winter.

Yeah it's because of lower cave temperatures during the Winter. I think water stays for longer in the farm plots in Winter as well. It still evaporates but noticeably slower compared to other seasons. Not sure if you can do the exact same thing on the surface since it can only rain on the first day and the temperature is not low enough for it to stay wet for too long. Also the rare winter rain usually lasts only for half a day and is not heavy enough to make things wet.

[ButterStuffed]

1 minute ago, Lovens said:

It still evaporates but noticeably slower compared to other seasons.

I’m fairly certain when the temperature is below 0 water doesn’t evaporate from farm plots at all. But now you’ve got me doubting myself. I’m not sure if that effect applies to the world moisture or not.

I hope it does. Having infinite water for Winter farming cuts down so much of the effort needed for out of season farming.