Walter is the "pineapple on pizza" of Don't Starve characters.

[Mysterious box]

Just now, Copyafriend said:

Anything is possible. But i think it is intended as a way to nerf the current “meta picks” while encouraging certain lategame picks. I’m not sure what the point would be if it had both high planar defense and high regular defense. I have to hope at least that we don’t get an equivalent because otherwise the planar equipment thing is simply chasing its own tail. Which it may be.

I think it's more so about stopping character perk stacking rather than rebalancing weapons and armors.

[Cheggf]

7 minutes ago, Copyafriend said:

Anything is possible. But i think it is intended as a way to nerf the current “meta picks” while encouraging certain lategame picks. I’m not sure what the point would be if it had both high planar defense and high regular defense. I have to hope at least that we don’t get an equivalent because otherwise the planar equipment thing is simply chasing its own tail. Which it may be.

It nerfs all weapons and all armor, not just "meta picks". I think it's because they got tired of people complaining that Wolfgang can deal 6x damage if he does a training montage and stacks a bunch of crap over the course of the movie.

[Nnumber3]

6 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

It nerfs all weapons and all armor, not just "meta picks". I think it's because they got tired of people complaining that Wolfgang can deal 6x damage if he does a training montage and stacks a bunch of crap over the course of the movie.

I always thought plantar damage and armor was a creative idea to prevent heavy powercreep.

as without plantar damage it would be:

A: weapon damage would get higher and higher, making even dark swords obsolete

B: we are stuck with same damage weapons but with higher health enemies

C: Weapon damage stays the same and enemies health stay the same, having the hambat dark sword meta be better then any other weapon they design unless they nerf ham bat and dark sword, which I don't think they should do.

I just think the wolfgang problem was just a side result of the idea, they were not thinking of nerfing wolfgang, thats why they gave it back in the skill tree.

 

[Cheggf]

1 minute ago, Nnumber3 said:

I always thought plantar damage and armor was a creative idea to prevent heavy powercreep.

as without plantar damage it would be:

A: weapon damage would get higher and higher, making even dark swords obsolete

B: we are stuck with same damage weapons but with higher health enemies

C: Weapon damage stays the same and enemies health stay the same, having the hambat dark sword meta be better then any other weapon they design unless they nerf ham bat and dark sword, which I don't think they should do.

I just think the wolfgang problem was just a side result of the idea, they were not thinking of nerfing wolfgang, thats why they gave it back in the skill tree.

 

I don't think they gave him 6x damage back in the skill tree, and C isn't an issue at all. There being 2 different equally viable weapons is great, and planar weapons aren't going to change that. What's the difference between everyone using Dark Swords & Hambats VS everyone using Planar Thises & Planar Thats?

[Just Mactusk]

In my opinion, mactusk is the tomato in the pizza

 

[Nnumber3]

Just now, Cheggf said:

I don't think they gave him 6x damage back in the skill tree, and C isn't an issue at all. There being 2 different equally viable weapons is great, and planar weapons aren't going to change that. What's the difference between everyone using Dark Swords & Hambats VS everyone using Planar Thises & Planar Thats?

Yeah they are viable, but we have been in this meta for what, since dst came out? I would rather some NEW weapons come out that are unique, as there is a surprising lack of good weapons in this game. The difference is that they would have more mechanics, as that's the direction kei seems to be going with these new weapons. with the whole 6x damage thing, with the skill tree i think it does 5x damage, as a dark sword max damage is 408, and brightshade sword is 309, which is still INSANE, what im i supposed to say? "oh no you deal a little less damage then usual against the new mobs oh the horror and have to play the content a little more normally oh the horror."

I think you FORGOT that. 

A: WOLFGANG STILL DOES MORE DAMAGE THEN NORMAL AGAINST BRIGHTSHADES AND DOES MORE THE ADVERTIZED DOUBLE DAMAGE

B: you can't balance around 6x damage with such a specific set up. and as i said, kei is not against Wolfgang, its just a fun mechanic to shake things up, and changing anything about damage would affect wolfgang: they had to bite the bullet. Would you rather kei plays it safe and not add plantar at all?

C: you only argued against point C so I assume you think my A and B points are correct.

 

[Cheggf]

19 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

Yeah they are viable, but we have been in this meta for what, since dst came out? I would rather some NEW weapons come out that are unique, as there is a surprising lack of good weapons in this game. The difference is that they would have more mechanics, as that's the direction kei seems to be going with these new weapons. with the whole 6x damage thing, with the skill tree i think it does 5x damage, as a dark sword max damage is 408, and brightshade sword is 309, which is still INSANE, what im i supposed to say? "oh no you deal a little less damage then usual against the new mobs oh the horror and have to play the content a little more normally oh the horror."

I think you FORGOT that. 

A: WOLFGANG STILL DOES MORE DAMAGE THEN NORMAL AGAINST BRIGHTSHADES AND DOES MORE THE ADVERTIZED DOUBLE DAMAGE

B: you can't balance around 6x damage with such a specific set up. and as i said, kei is not against Wolfgang, its just a fun mechanic to shake things up, and changing anything about damage would affect wolfgang: they had to bite the bullet. Would you rather kei plays it safe and not add plantar at all?

C: you only argued against point C so I assume you think my A and B points are correct.

 

So your issue with ham bats and dark swords isn't that there's actually anything wrong with them, it's just that you've used them for awhile so you want them to change to something else for no reason.

[Evelo]

I like Pineapple on Pizza. Never understood why people cared so much about foods they don't like. If you don't like Pineapple on your pizza, order without it. If someone else wants pineapple on your pizza then split it in half, Half with pineapple half without.

If you want a whole pizza to yourself then host your own server and ban Walters. It is your pizza after all.

[Copyafriend]

12 minutes ago, Evelo said:

I like Pineapple on Pizza. Never understood why people cared so much about foods they don't like. If you don't like Pineapple on your pizza, order without it. If someone else wants pineapple on your pizza then split it in half, Half with pineapple half without.

If you want a whole pizza to yourself then host your own server and ban Walters. It is your pizza after all.

Its stalest meme still active to this day that i know, fueled bu a combination of people being prudish for no reason and trolls who want to bother them for the same lack of reason.

[Nnumber3]

17 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

So your issue with ham bats and dark swords isn't that there's actually anything wrong with them, it's just that you've used them for awhile so you want them to change to something else for no reason.

I never said i had a issue with dark swords and ham bats, I said the OPPOSITE.

 is it a crime to have other weapons compete with dark swords and hambats for wolfgang?

 

22 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

So your issue with ham bats and dark swords isn't that there's actually anything wrong with them, it's just that you've used them for awhile so you want them to change to something else for no reason.

I never said i had a issue with dark swords and ham bats, I said the OPPOSITE.

 is it a crime to have other weapons compete with dark swords and hambats for wolfgang?

or to have more types of weapons in this game?

 

[Cheggf]

56 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

I never said i had a issue with dark swords and ham bats, I said the OPPOSITE.

 is it a crime to have other weapons compete with dark swords and hambats for wolfgang?

or to have more types of weapons in this game?

If anything, planar damage is doing the opposite. Before planar damage you have

• Dark Sword for high damage, but it drains your sanity.
• Ham Bat for infinite durability, but it only lasts a few days then must be remade.
• Thulecite Club for high durability, the best damage against a less mobile dry foe, and a minor speed boost.
• Shield of Terror for infinite durability and armor, but you need to be careful with it.
• Tentacle Spike for a very cheap weapon.
• Glass Cutter for a Dark Sword that has tons of durability against shadows and doesn't drain your sanity, but it's weird to make.
• Morning Star for the best unassisted damage against a wet target, time-based durability, and a light source.
• More suboptimal weapons, and "weapons" that are more tools.

After planar damage you have

• Dark Sword, but white.

[abrocator]

5 hours ago, Shosuko said:

Nothing about glass cannon means it can't use armor.  Wanda is sitting between 37 and 17 effective health in old age.  With classic 80% armor she gets about 187 to 87 effective health.  Basically with 80% armor she is as good as the rest of the cast naked.  How many people play the game naked though?  Most people play with at least 80% armor easily smoking her tankiness.  She can use night armor which bumps her up to 750 to 350 effective health but this armor is a lot more upkeep having to get 12 reeds per armor.  Getting a stack of reeds to have armor for a boss fight is a lot.

She also gets hit HARD with direct damage.  Overheating, burning, freezing, starving are all real threats to her.  That first day of winter where you probably don't need cold protection b/c you'll only be freezing for about a minute and will probably take only 25ish damage?  Yeah, she will die lol.

Its pretty factual that her ability to take damage is much worse then any other character.  Be in denial all you want, try mental gymnastics like comparing her health with night armor against an unarmored wilson lol  its not going to change reality.

A glass cannon is someone who dies from one single damage-inducing mistake. And your game and save files also get deleted. And you have to repurchase the game.

(Also using bone armor on any character with the tag "glass cannon" kills the character on equipping it since it is considered a cheat.)

This shouldn't even be controversial/matter if you are good at the game since never taking damage is quite trivial if you have 30 hours in the game or more to be quite honest with you fam.

3 hours ago, Nnumber3 said:

I always thought plantar damage and armor was a creative idea to prevent heavy powercreep.

Imagine getting better gear and powers in a world the longer you play it (I can't even).

[Nnumber3]

18 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

After planar damage you have

• Dark Sword, but white.

thats not true:

Brightshade bombs, a fun yet unpractical weapon

Brightshade Staff, cool bouncing orb for crowds

Brightshade sword: dark sword with white skin

void Sythe: weapon and tool, with ramping, and talks to you, good for single targets 

(I saw the edit, how are above tools?)

Their respective armor buffs them, yes its not as much as the original crew of weapons, but there still adding more.

I think your missing my point, YOU CAN STILL USE DARK SWORDS AND HAMBATS with against planar enemies, not like your forced to use them. (yes i have been callng plantar since it was introduced )

you can't argue that planar weapons seem to be much more unique then normal weapons so far except the sword, whitch is why i want to see more of them 

All i want is more unique weapons in the game as planar seems to be giving me that, and kei is not targeting wolfgang, because if they did why give him the skills?

And lets think: does wolfgang having a slightly smaller damage modifer against plantar enemys really destroy wolfgang, make him f tier, limit your fun? no? then whats the problem? he is still amazing.

33 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

• Dark Sword for high damage, but it drains your sanity.
• Ham Bat for infinite durability, but it only lasts a few days then must be remade.
• Thulecite Club for high durability, the best damage against a less mobile dry foe, and a minor speed boost.
• Shield of Terror for infinite durability and armor, but you need to be careful with it.
• Tentacle Spike for a very cheap weapon.
• Glass Cutter for a Dark Sword that has tons of durability against shadows and doesn't drain your sanity, but it's weird to make.
• Morning Star for the best unassisted damage against a wet target, time-based durability, and a light source.
• More suboptimal weapons, and "weapons" that are more tools.

yeah and that took about 7 years to get all those 8 weapons. 

we have 5 new weapons in a couple months

it seems we are getting a brand new line up of weapons, and new combat mechanics, so I'm on board.

fine, i will admit it, I Want more weapons like terraria does, with the insane amount of weapons terraria has. 

fun fact: i got into DST by the terraria x Dst update, as i never heard of it before then.

ANYWAYS, this is VERY OFFTOPIC ABOUT A POST ABOUT WALTER AND PINEAPPLE PIZZA

sooo, never tried Pineapple pizza, don't care if other's eat it. Walter is a bit underpowered so it makes sense to compare him to pineapple pizza

 

[Yuuko]

3 hours ago, Nnumber3 said:

I always thought plantar damage and armor was a creative idea to prevent heavy powercreep.

as without plantar damage it would be:

A: weapon damage would get higher and higher, making even dark swords obsolete

B: we are stuck with same damage weapons but with higher health enemies

C: Weapon damage stays the same and enemies health stay the same, having the hambat dark sword meta be better then any other weapon they design unless they nerf ham bat and dark sword, which I don't think they should do.

I just think the wolfgang problem was just a side result of the idea, they were not thinking of nerfing wolfgang, thats why they gave it back in the skill tree.

 

One of the best parts of DST's design to date was how well they avoided power creep...  There were a lot of options introduced since the inception of the game yet many weapons from the original launch were still viable.  If anything the change to Planar damage is an admission that they are done being creative and will just go the way of power creep in future design.  Its a hard-fork that changes out our weapon choices from many to few.

A) Weapon damage has not gotten higher and higher.  Its pretty obvious quite a bit of design power was spent in creating new options WITHOUT breaking the damage ceiling of a Dark Sword.

B) Enemy health also hasn't really gone up.  We basically have 2 classes of bosses.  Normal bosses and raid bosses.  Normal bosses are all pretty much 10k health or below.  Raid bosses break that cap, but its not exactly trending up...  Toad has 52500 health while all 3 phases of Celestial Champion have a combined total of 35500...

C) This is what we've had, but here is the thing - its up to players whether they feel they need to optimize the fun out of the game or not.  No one says you MUST use a dark sword to fight.  There are plenty of options to fight, its YOU who chooses the dark sword.  Nothing says you can't ditch Rick's yt guides and go do something different.  There are a lot of players who do using things like bat bat for healing, morning stars when its wet in caves / rainy on surface, tentacle spikes for no-downsides high damage, or even stacking gunpowder, taming beefs, building catapults, etc.  You name it, you can do it, this "dark sword meta" is completely artificial.  Nothing requires a dark sword in this game.  There are trade-offs and advantages to all of these that can make them appealing over the dark sword depending on the situation and the player.

Planar of course changes this...  and as more planar stuff comes into focus the change will only become more pronounced, but the writing is already on the walls.  You will need to switch to planar weapons and armor for new content, taking all of the creative, interesting and niche equipment we've used previously and dumping it in the trash can.

12 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

 

And lets think: does wolfgang having a slightly smaller damage modifer against plantar enemys really destroy wolfgang, make him f tier, limit your fun? no? then whats the problem? he is still amazing.

It kinda does considering +100% damage is the same as just having 2 people.  2 people are actually better than 1 Wolfgang already b/c they can maintain better damage uptime, but gutting that damage really does take away from him in a big way.  Klei went pretty hard giving him other things to balance out nerfing his kit, but the bottom line is yes without a big enough damage increase he is worthless.  This is likely why he was one of the first lined up to receive his skill tree which instantly gave him all of his damage back and more.

Shouldn't be surprising that a damage based character needs damage, but here we are lol

12 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

 

fine, i will admit it, I Want more weapons like terraria does, with the insane amount of weapons terraria has. 

fun fact: i got into DST by the terraria x Dst update, as i never heard of it before then.

 

 

That's like, exactly my fear.  I think when Klei did their crossover with Terrerria they now want to change the game to be a terreria clone instead of staying DST.  I enjoy the open sandbox and directionless play.  You can rush bosses, but you can do a lot in DST without bosses too.  Its not all about levels, and power ups, most of the times fighting with an axe is as viable as fighting with a dark sword b/c of the elegant simplicity of the game.  The fact that everything is available from the first moment you log in provided you have the skill is a major part of DST.

Leveling, grinding, unlocking, NG+ worlds................... its just not what I'm here for.

[Nnumber3]

Just now, Shosuko said:

One of the best parts of DST's design to date was how well they avoided power creep...  There were a lot of options introduced since the inception of the game yet many weapons from the original launch were still viable.  If anything the change to Planar damage is an admission that they are done being creative and will just go the way of power creep in future design.  Its a hard-fork that changes out our weapon choices from many to few.

A) Weapon damage has not gotten higher and higher.  Its pretty obvious quite a bit of design power was spent in creating new options WITHOUT breaking the damage ceiling of a Dark Sword.

B) Enemy health also hasn't really gone up.  We basically have 2 classes of bosses.  Normal bosses and raid bosses.  Normal bosses are all pretty much 10k health or below.  Raid bosses break that cap, but its not exactly trending up...  Toad has 52500 health while all 3 phases of Celestial Champion have a combined total of 35500...

C) This is what we've had, but here is the thing - its up to players whether they feel they need to optimize the fun out of the game or not.  No one says you MUST use a dark sword to fight.  There are plenty of options to fight, its YOU who chooses the dark sword.  Nothing says you can't ditch Rick's yt guides and go do something different.  There are a lot of players who do using things like bat bat for healing, morning stars when its wet in caves / rainy on surface, tentacle spikes for no-downsides high damage, or even stacking gunpowder, taming beefs, building catapults, etc.  You name it, you can do it, this "dark sword meta" is completely artificial.  Nothing requires a dark sword in this game.  There are trade-offs and advantages to all of these that can make them appealing over the dark sword depending on the situation and the player.

Planar of course changes this...  and as more planar stuff comes into focus the change will only become more pronounced, but the writing is already on the walls.  You will need to switch to planar weapons and armor for new content, taking all of the creative, interesting and niche equipment we've used previously and dumping it in the trash can.

What? this makes no sense

power creep is in every game that exist, you never make a spear again when you have dark swords.

A: that's... the point of plantar damage? as increasing the damage of weapons directly would be higher power creep, which you don't want.

B: yeah. boss hp has not gone up, but that makes sense, you would rather more hp then a fun fight? as i think every 1 agrees CC is much better then toadstool, like if they keep adding more hp, would fights on adverge take 30 mins, a hour?

C: yeah, thats true... like how you can still use normal weapons against planar enemys, its not stopping you then using them, like how no one is stopping you from killing toadstool with only a bat bat and no weatherpains: it takes longer but its your choice.

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM USING OTHER ITEMS

have you tried the new planar weapons? there fun and not just melee and hold f, making combat more fun.

your acting like this is some game killer, but in realty your being stubborn and don't want the game to change, 

let me say it again to make sure

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM USING OTHER ITEMS.

I won't be surprised if they add a item to give other weapons planar damage, your acting like all planar weapons are all dark sword clones and have 0 originality, which is not true.

[Yuuko]

56 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

What? this makes no sense

power creep is in every game that exist, you never make a spear again when you have dark swords.

A: that's... the point of plantar damage? as increasing the damage of weapons directly would be higher power creep, which you don't want.

B: yeah. boss hp has not gone up, but that makes sense, you would rather more hp then a fun fight? as i think every 1 agrees CC is much better then toadstool, like if they keep adding more hp, would fights on adverge take 30 mins, a hour?

C: yeah, thats true... like how you can still use normal weapons against planar enemys, its not stopping you then using them, like how no one is stopping you from killing toadstool with only a bat bat and no weatherpains: it takes longer but its your choice.

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM USING OTHER ITEMS

have you tried the new planar weapons? there fun and not just melee and hold f, making combat more fun.

your acting like this is some game killer, but in realty your being stubborn and don't want the game to change, 

let me say it again to make sure

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM USING OTHER ITEMS.

I won't be surprised if they add a item to give other weapons planar damage, your acting like all planar weapons are all dark sword clones and have 0 originality, which is not true.

A) Planar damage is directly increasing damage and defense of items by changing types.  This is 100% power creep, of the worst kind.  Its not even a smooth gradient like axe => spear => hambat => darksword.  Its just "oh you have this whole array of weapons and tools that are cool?  nah, here is an enemy that gives them the finger.  New stuff only pl0x"

B) You said "we are stuck with same damage weapons but with higher health enemies," and I show you this is not the case.  Now you say "yeah. boss hp has not gone up," glad you agree.  B is false.  Klei was able to make the game more enjoyable, interactive, challenging, and NOT give into power creep to do it thx.

C) The damage nerf is big.  This isn't a tradeoff like Tentacle spikes which have high damage but are more difficult to farm, or Dark Swords with high damage but reduce your sanity, compared to hambat's with lower damage but infinite durability, etc etc etc - nope, this is just "your old stuff is all bad now, get new stuff b/c" like exactly the bad kind of power creep.  The only thing missing are the microtransactions lol

BS sword is exactly a hold f weapon, and really so is the staff it just has some situations where holding f is far superior with its bouncing.  Bombs?  We already had bombs, but they are not nerfed HARD so we can use new bombs...  See the pattern?  Like all of this we had, none of it is really new, its just everything old was nerfed so now you're seeing only the new stuff as useful in the new content.  imo this whole thing is a dark turn for DST.

[Popian]

8 hours ago, Shosuko said:

She also gets hit HARD with direct damage.  Overheating, burning, freezing, starving are all real threats to her.  That first day of winter where you probably don't need cold protection b/c you'll only be freezing for about a minute and will probably take only 25ish damage?  Yeah, she will die lol.

It may not be well known but Wanda has a hidden "at death's door" mechanic where as long as you are at 68+ you are immune to damage taken from freezing or overheating. Seems like a kind of trade-off for having to pay attention to healing in general and filling your inventory with clocks.

[Theukon-dos]

3 minutes ago, Popian said:

It may not be well known but Wanda has a hidden "at death's door" mechanic where as long as you are at 68+ you are immune to damage taken from freezing or overheating. Seems like a kind of trade-off for having to pay attention to healing in general and filling your inventory with clocks.

Wait really? Neat.

[Nnumber3]

23 minutes ago, Popian said:

It may not be well known but Wanda has a hidden "at death's door" mechanic where as long as you are at 68+ you are immune to damage taken from freezing or overheating. Seems like a kind of trade-off for having to pay attention to healing in general and filling your inventory with clocks.

That does not sound right.. let me test it real quick

Debunked, you still die to overheating and freezing.

mabye your talking about a different Death door mechanic? 

the 1 that lets you survive a hit if you use your clock before you die?

 

[Popian]

26 minutes ago, Nnumber3 said:

That does not sound right.. let me test it real quick

Debunked, you still die to overheating and freezing.

mabye your talking about a different Death door mechanic? 

the 1 that lets you survive a hit if you use your clock before you die?

 

This is how my game works, unless a mod is changing how things work even with all of them disabled.

[Yuuko]

1 hour ago, Popian said:

It may not be well known but Wanda has a hidden "at death's door" mechanic where as long as you are at 68+ you are immune to damage taken from freezing or overheating. Seems like a kind of trade-off for having to pay attention to healing in general and filling your inventory with clocks.

If you set temperature damage to non-lethal in world settings 68 years is the limit for Wanda where she no longer takes temp damage.  This is only if you set temp damage to non-lethal which prevents any character from dying this way, not just Wanda.

Without this setting she can heat and freeze to death like everyone else.  Since she operates at low health this is pretty punishing for her.  She's the only character I really have to scramble for when it comes to temp or starving.  Everyone else can shrug it off for a minute or so np, or eat a jelly bean and just ignore it completely lol

[Popian]

1 minute ago, Shosuko said:

If you set temperature damage to non-lethal in world settings 68 years is the limit for Wanda where she no longer takes temp damage.  This is only if you set temp damage to non-lethal which prevents any character from dying this way, not just Wanda.

Without this setting she can heat and freeze to death like everyone else.  Since she operates at low health this is pretty punishing for her.  She's the only character I really have to scramble for when it comes to temp or starving.  Everyone else can just eat a jelly bean and have a good long while before it matters lol

I see, sorry. I didn't think those presets mattered.

[Nnumber3]

heres is proof of me dyeing to overheating as video proof, same with freezing.

[Arde]

The idea for walter is very unique for dont starve and the pieces for a good character are there but they're very poorly glued together and i think thats why people hate her. There are other characters that are worse tho like woodie or willow

[Gashzer]

1 hour ago, Arde said:

The idea for walter is very unique for dont starve and the pieces for a good character are there but they're very poorly glued together and i think thats why people hate her. There are other characters that are worse tho like woodie or willow

I think Walter perks are very well designed and glue together well. The random perk soup isnt random at all. 

So Walters downside is losing sanity on hit at double the rate of health loss. However his hat makes this sanity loss 1 to 1 with health. This encourages you to use body armour instead of head armour, you sacrifice a backpack for this. Woby comes with extra storage slots to cover downside of using body armour. An upside of not using a backpack is being able to stack body clothing with head clothing for massive seasonal resistance this makes Walter indirectly buffed in surviving the cold and hot of winter/summer. Big woby also allows Walter to travel wearing full insulation clothing and using a lantern without sacrificing the speed a walking cane and mag would bring.

Back to combat, if you wear the hat with body armour for non-boss combat you will die from health loss before goin insane. Its a good job if Walter ever needs to heal he has his portable tent to heal both health and sanity covering the loss of both from non-boss combat. Walter literally has perks to cover all his downsides.

In the animated short you see Walter eat jerky, this is a hint for the sorta food stuff to bring into boss fights. Walter is better at hunting koalafants straight out of the portal than most characters using his slingshot. Now Walter has plenty of meat to dry that provides both the sanity and health healing he needs for boss fights as long as you use his hat with body armour. Riding woby and using the slingshot is a great way to kite and slowly kill both vargs and ewecus' with gold rounds, both mobs are very hard to fight solo without follower backup as other characters.

The slingshot is good for killing birds for feather for pencils for maps so walter can share his explored map with others. Since Walter will explore the map faster than others its good to be able to easily share it with others. The slingshot is great at killing dangerous mobs like tentacles and big tentacles. Its fantastic to use if you have recruited pigs/bunnymen/rock lobsters, you can fling pellets safely from behind them. Slingshot can stack 6 ice staff worth of freeze rounds in one slot which is so much better than a single ice staff. These rounds are useful for freezing clockworks during a ruins clear as it only takes one pellet to freeze them.

Overall Walter brings so many upsides, you just need to accept the change in playstyle which is forget about backpacks and use body armours. The reward of this playstyle is a massive boost to seasonal survival and fluid change of body slot items like mag/armour/clothing without worrying about running to pick up your dropped backpack.

Klei did such a good job with Walter, i remember hating him when he first came out until i embraced the way hes meant to be played... the QoL he brings compared to other characters makes it so i always come back to playing him.