Wilson's house originally belonging to Wagstaff may be a red herring

[ButterStuffed]

If we assume Wagstaff is the mysterious individual tuning the radio at the end of Wilson's short a couple things do not add up. It feels less like Wagstaff is using Wilson's portal to project into the Constant, but rather somebody is watching Wagstaff and intentionally interfering with his connection to the Constant. His projection appears to be significantly less stable than in the single player version and once the knob on the radio is turned radio interference occurs in the short and also the name of the video is literally "Interference".

In single player Wagstaff's examination quote for Maxwell's door (Which is exactly the same as the one in both of Wilson's shorts) gives me the impression that he is encountering this portal design for the first time in the Constant. So Wagstaff bothering to use Wilson's portal over making his own doesn't make sense either.

ADVENTURE_PORTAL = "An inspired design! I must talk with the inventor!"

The only character we know of that has any sort of ill will towards Wagstaff is WX-78, but since WX-78 is stuck in the Constant he doesn't appear to have any means to do anything to him. But the individual who's mind is copied into WX-78's brain is entirely unaccounted for. What if Wilson's house did not originally belong to Wagstaff, but WX-78's original body? WX-78's short reveals his original body needed huge glasses just like Wagstaff. WX-78's original body appears to be just as scientifically capable as Wagstaff, and the fact that in single player Wagstaff does not know how his PR-76's are in the Constant is interesting. Implying that another fully capable inventor has passed through the constant and used the PR-76 to find the Nightmare throne and leave the Gramophone there. WX-78 having the Chorusbox circuit which plays the same song as the Gramophone may also be more than just a nod towards WX-78's sadistic tendencies.

Thoughts?

--EDIT

I just realized at 1:36 the metal thing underneath the watch with the impossible to read W name literally looks like a WX-78 head.

[Ornge]

Idk it sounds like your overthinking this. The only "interference" that happens is the video ending. The interference is wagstaff preventing us from watching the video lol.

Why would wagstaff not use Wilson's door if it's the one that contains a portal to the constant? It's not like he just intuitively knows how to make a portal to the constant. therefore it would makes sense that he's working on the portal to gather more information on how it works.

The hand tuning the radio is wearing yellow gloves, just like how wagstaff is wearing yellow gloves in the constant. He also has the same white sleeve. If Klei wanted us to think it's a different character, he wouldn't have the exact same arm as wagstaff.

The PR-76 theory is interesting though. I always thought Maxwell just hijacked wagstaff's invention but it could make more sense that someone else put them in there.

[ButterStuffed]

49 minutes ago, Ornge said:

Idk it sounds like your overthinking this. The only "interference" that happens is the video ending. The interference is wagstaff preventing us from watching the video lol.

Maybe.

Naming the video after a 4th wall breaking "Interference" at the end doesn't make any sense. Surely it's more than that.

49 minutes ago, Ornge said:

Why would wagstaff not use Wilson's door if it's the one that contains a portal to the constant? It's not like he just intuitively knows how to make a portal to the constant. therefore it would makes sense that he's working on the portal to gather more information on how it works.

There are three portals that are heavily implied to have been made by Wagstaff. The exploded one in the Moon Quay, the one shown in WX-78's short, and Winona's short. I would say he definitely already knows how to make a portal to the constant.

49 minutes ago, Ornge said:

The hand tuning the radio is wearing yellow gloves, just like how wagstaff is wearing yellow gloves in the constant. He also has the same white sleeve. If Klei wanted us to think it's a different character, he wouldn't have the exact same arm as wagstaff.

Wearing yellow gloves doesn't prove that individual is Wagstaff. Surely it was left vague for a reason, otherwise it would have been more obvious.

Also, I don't see any white sleeve on the individual at the end? The shot only shows the glove and skin.

[sudoku]

5 minutes ago, ButterStuffed said:

There are three portals that are heavily implied to have been made by Wagstaff. The exploded one in the Moon Quay, the one shown in WX-78's short, and Winona's short. I would say he definitely already knows how to make a portal to the constant.

Yes but Wilson's DST portal is a special portal allowing the different survivors from different universes to enter Wilson's universe. That is if we are still going with the previous lore.

[ButterStuffed]

12 minutes ago, sudoku said:

Yes but Wilson's DST portal is a special portal allowing the different survivors from different universes to enter Wilson's universe. That is if we are still going with the previous lore.

I’m confused what you’re getting getting at here.

 

You’re referring to the spawn portal right? I’m not sure that portal is relevant since it doesn’t open a path in or out of the constant. Just to other parts(or times) of the same constant.

[sudoku]

Yes the portal that Max and Wilson build together, the main portal in DST. I thought it was known lore that before DST, each of the survivors were in different like universes or timelines which explained why you never see any of the other suvivors on your playthrough despite being in the same location. Then when Max and Wilson finish the DST portal it allows all of the survivors to come together from their seperate universes and also helps to explain why there can be multiples of each character in a game as well as explaining away character skins.

The game has always had the themes of science and magic, with Wilson representing science and Max magic. The portal represents the two coming together and Id suspect that Wagstaff would be intrigued to learn more.

EDIT: Its called the Jury-Rigged Portal

Spoiler

 

[Mike23Ua]

7 minutes ago, sudoku said:

Yes the portal that Max and Wilson build together, the main portal in DST. I thought it was known lore that before DST, each of the survivors were in different like universes or timelines which explained why you never see any of the other suvivors on your playthrough despite being in the same location. Then when Max and Wilson finish the DST portal it allows all of the survivors to come together from their seperate universes and also helps to explain why there can be multiples of each character in a game as well as explaining away character skins.

The game has always had the themes of science and magic, with Wilson representing science and Max magic. The portal represents the two coming together and Id suspect that Wagstaff would be intrigued to learn more.

EDIT: Its called the Jury-Rigged Portal

Actually I do sort of recall once asking the devs very specifically about the Celestial Portal, and how characters were able to character swap (even for the same character if you wanted to..) and where the characters go when swapped out and the reply I got was pretty the same as what your describing here, parallel realms different variations of the constant & it’s trapped survivors.. etc.

In short: Marvel/DC Multiverse shenanigans.

However, there is at least TWO survivors Wilson actually DOES come across in the same realms with him prior to building the jury rigged portal to pull everyone from their alternate realities into one area.

Those would be Wes, & Maxwell during Solo DS Adventures Mode, but.. since Adventures Mode takes place in “Chapters” I’m going to assume that Wilson escapes his reality, into another reality where Wes & then eventually Maxwell is.

The thing is: Newer players to the Franchise aren’t aware of this Lore, and outside of some compendium descriptions, and maybe a vignette or two the Jury Rigged Portal is lost lore to them.

Maybe Klei should add more in-game lore to clear up all the confusion, add all the animated short cinematic's etc- to better tell the story of what has happened & what’s happening.

[ButterStuffed]

20 minutes ago, sudoku said:

Yes the portal that Max and Wilson build together, the main portal in DST. I thought it was known lore that before DST, each of the survivors were in different like universes or timelines which explained why you never see any of the other suvivors on your playthrough despite being in the same location. Then when Max and Wilson finish the DST portal it allows all of the survivors to come together from their seperate universes and also helps to explain why there can be multiples of each character in a game as well as explaining away character skins.

The game has always had the themes of science and magic, with Wilson representing science and Max magic. The portal represents the two coming together and Id suspect that Wagstaff would be intrigued to learn more.

What?

I’m even more confused what you’re talking about now. I am fully aware the constant has some time/universe shenanigans going on that Wilson and Maxwell messed around with using science/magic.

What I was talking about in the post you were originally quoting was not referring to the Florid Postern at all. That is a completely different topic.

I was just saying that Wagstaff definitely knows how to make a portal directly to the constant. Not whether he would be interested in the spawn portal or not.

[sudoku]

24 minutes ago, ButterStuffed said:

What?

I’m even more confused what you’re talking about now. I am fully aware the constant has some time/universe shenanigans going on that Wilson and Maxwell messed around with using science/magic.

What I was talking about in the post you were originally quoting was not referring to the Florid Postern at all. That is a completely different topic.

I was just saying that Wagstaff definitely knows how to make a portal directly to the constant. Not whether he would be interested in the spawn portal or not.

I guess i was just getting at that despite that he knows how to make a portal, the jury-rigged portal seems to be the most impressive portal in which he would take notice. 

In the short we see him working holographically on a portal of his own in which Wilson begins to help him. We then switch to the perspective of Wagstaff back at Wilsons/Wagstaffs old house viewing the portal Wilson built back there. 

[lakhnish]

Is the theory that the house didn't belong to Wagstaff but instead WX's human form? Yes, WX's human form wore giant glasses, but it didn't look like the iconic goggles that Wagstaff was wearing but rather just giant glasses.

The goggles are rather iconic to Wagstaff himself since he wears it and it's been shown twice now in shorts, once in Webber's short and the other in this short where Wilson holds them up.

The other thing is the fact that there's the Voxola radio, which is Wagstaff's invention. Those two reasons seem stronger to me to guess that it was indeed Wagstaff's home rather than saying it was WX's (and it keeps it simpler too).

[W0l0l0]

5 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Actually I do sort of recall once asking the devs very specifically about the Celestial Portal, and how characters were able to character swap (even for the same character if you wanted to..) and where the characters go when swapped out and the reply I got was pretty the same as what your describing here, parallel realms different variations of the constant & it’s trapped survivors.. etc.

I don't suppose you could dig up the original thread? Sounds intriguing.

[Mike23Ua]

3 hours ago, W0l0l0 said:

I don't suppose you could dig up the original thread? Sounds intriguing.

Unfortunately I wouldn’t even begin to know where to look, lol.. I’m really not that smart when it comes to Internet technology or finding the stuff I’m looking for. But I’m pretty sure someone has to have further information about it somewhere. I’m not certain but there may even be some in-game Quotes that hints at it when you inspect them depending on which character your playing as.

 

[DrMcGillacactus]

As for the name of the short, I think it's named "Interference" simply because Wagstaff is using a radio to interfere with the Constant. It's just a nice use of radio terminology, rather than a literal statement that the projection is being blocked by something.
I wouldn't be surprised if I end up being wrong here, that's just how I see it.
The "interference" that closes out the animation is just a nice relevant transition.

[Castaccio]

I agree with everyone in that this is almost certainly Wagstaff's house. Not only do we see his goggles and his inventions, but the walls are also shown to have metal sheets on them, cobbled together in a similar manner to Wagstaff's singleplayer inventions, the monkeys' houses, and Wagstaff's portals.

I do agree with you that the portal he built was probably not his. He has a trademark aesthetic, and the Jury Rigged Portal is not it.

Perhaps he also gained some forbidden knowledge from somewhere? It would be kinda funny if it turned out that Maxwell tried his trick once before and failed.