Has an update been this buggy before?

[jan Mele]

16 hours ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said:

 

Ah yes, Klei definetely promised every last detail they planned

[Datanon]

yea i think its a nice idea to show OP how its done by derailing the thread by calling names until a mod closes it because of how aggressive the replies were

by the way, klei is not composed only by code devs, and these are likely not the people deciding on release dates

[Falkenpelz]

19 hours ago, Hornete said:

Oh but that's not a bug, teehee. Both Mctusk and Wee tusk have melee attacks! They're just super rarely used because the conditions for them to use that melee attack is extremely specific. They can also eat food!

THEY WHAT

[MondayNight]

6 hours ago, jan Mele said:

Ah yes, Klei definetely promised every last detail they planned

Is not about "promised every last detail they planned" (even if that, itself, was true, only underlines more a scanty internal management of projects and whatnot), but providing functioning products - at least. Having your character's attack "stop functioning" in middle of fights, in-game mobs' AI doing a "SQUIRREL!" U-turn on combat just-like-that, or a recurring communication error from KLei's side when servers try to connect to their database, resulting in server crashes, for example, can't really be called "functioning product", can it?! And I myself don't believe is such "a preposterous expectation" updates be.. functional, yes?! Once more: better take more time and actually test yourself, as a dev, your new updates than pushing them on "tight schedule" & faulty manner. I also get it, being under Tencent/corporate supervision certainly won't give the leeway they had before said acquisition/partnership. Yet they decided upon it and now.. they should adapt in a satisfactory fashion for player-base at large (you know, "general customer satisfaction"). We'll see. Hope dies last, as they say, and my hope is one day new updates won't break so much game-play as they currently do - and I've "voiced" my concern(s).

[LitulLola]

Just a quick imo

You need to remember that Klei is a small company. They are not EA or some big studio with countless coders and testers. We are a small part of the testing that goes into this game and they continually listen to us and our feedback. They will fix everything, you just need to be patient and give them time to do so.  After all these years they are still bringing monthly content in to expand and create new interesting content and updates to small and major mechanics in the game. And there is sooo much more they will continue to do. Be patient and have fun as DST continues to grow.

[Faintly Macabre]

Anybody else want to come in and casually announce they're cultists that don't read or research?

If you guys are satisfied, that's great, but don't expect those who aren't to take you seriously when you come in and drone the same platitudes and demonstrable falsehoods over and over while trying to make the situation look hunky-dory by comparing the situation to developers that unambiguously suck.

[HowlVoid]

Someone posted a frustrated post not really insulting anyone in particular.

The response is someone insulting them directly.

"And everyone clapped"

Hahahahaha, oh the irony.

[LitulLola]

I'm not a cultist and yes I can read. Your opinion is  valid but so is mine. If your that upset about things you can choose to not play the game or participate in the community. 

Toxicity helps no one

[Faintly Macabre]

9 minutes ago, LitulLola said:

I'm not a cultist and yes I can read. Your opinion is  valid but so is mine. If your that upset about things you can choose to not play the game or participate in the community. 

Toxicity helps no one

I didn't say you couldn't read, I said you didn't read. This felt like a safe thing to presume, because even if I accept that it's unreasonable to go trawling through the bug tracker yourself to see everything that hasn't been fixed before pretending to have an informed view, I can't think of a more charitable explanation for why someone could look right past a post detailing bugs that have been in the game for nearly a year or more and then tell everyone "everything will be fixed."

Opinions are not all equally valid. If you form your opinion contrary to evidence, it's bunk. And "if you're not happy, leave" is a lame non-solution used to uphold a status quo, a type of toxicity of its own.

[LitulLola]

If I'm not happy with a game I don't play it. You have a choice. IMO anything that has been game breaking in DST has been fixed.

Insulting people is not constructive or helpful

[Faintly Macabre]

Is doubling down on a dismissive solution to a problem and moving the goalposts from "everything" to "everything I think is game breaking" what's helpful?

[Cheggf]

1 hour ago, LitulLola said:

Insulting people is not constructive or helpful

And ignoring paragraphs of argument, waiving it all away with "if you don't think Don't Starve is a perfect game with no flaws and Klei is a perfect company with no flaws then leave. Stop playing the game, stop talking about the game, I don't want to see you here." is constructive and helpful?

You are the toxic one in this exchange, and this is coming from someone who doesn't think DST is very buggy. Telling someone not to play a game or participate in the community just because they had some feedback, and calling them toxic?

[LitulLola]

I never said Klei or this game was perfect. Nobody likes bugs, the originator of this post was frustrated and i get that. All I asked was for everyone to be patient and have fun. They keep pumping out hot fixes to try and address these problems. All opinions are valid as I've stated. The response to my post was a comment that the developers "unambiguously suck" and calling us "cultists". I told him he has a choice not to play the game or participate if it's that bad simple as that. I wouldn't play or participate in a community if I was that  unhappy with it. And I certainly don't like being flat out insulted. Never once have I insulated anyone in this forum. This isn't supposed to be a space to do so. If I offended anyone that wasn't my intention, it never is. 

[Faintly Macabre]

55 minutes ago, LitulLola said:

The response to my post was a comment that the developers "unambiguously suck" and calling us "cultists". I told him he has a choice not to play the game or participate if it's that bad simple as that.

First of all, you misread. The developers that "unambiguously suck" were the developers of the horror stories people were sharing in order to excuse any problems this game has, not Klei.

Second, I'm not that unhappy with this game. I do get frustrated with it because as I said previously, I think it often lacks some polish, but overall it's fairly solid. (Though some of my frustration is colored by the shape DS was left in, which is pretty bad)

What I was pretty unhappy with is somebody voicing their discontent and then somebody else just coming in and blasting them, for which 25+ people now have given this somebody else a pat on the back, and then a couple more people being dismissive or belittling with lame reasons for why he should just shut up and be happy. So yeah, that's the corner I ended up in.

But even if I were as upset as OP is, "just don't play then" is still just a crappy, dismissive non-solution. It seems pretty obvious that we don't want to stop playing, and if we did, we wouldn't need to be informed that we have that option.