-Variant Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 So, a long time ago when Willow got her rework, Bernie had received a skin that'd turn him into Ashley, his cat-counterpart for her Forlorn doll skin. However currently when using this skin Ashley is still referred to as Bernie and uses all of his pronouns and quotes. Dataminers had uncovered that existing quotes for Ashley did exist and weren't being used, I'm figuring with all the great changes we're getting in this QOL we could potentially get these brought back. I understand the concern with renaming items that are simply skins but I feel like this is an example where it'd be appropriate and it wouldn't be too confusing since they functional identically! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I would prefer not to. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassielu Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I remember asking this question to one of the developers, or seeing a reply from it somewhere, probably Jeddy, he said it was a negotiated decision and they didn't want skins change the original item too much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 slippery slope. if you do this then folks will ask new quotes for all the more outlandish item skins out there Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Well-met said: slippery slope. if you do this then folks will ask new quotes for all the more outlandish item skins out there I guess? This is the only item skin that turns it into a completely different character though. All other skins change the appearance of something, Lantern skins are still lanterns, Chester's sheep skin is just Chester, but sheepish. Bernie is changed to Ashley, who isn't Bernie, ya know? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, -Variant said: I guess? This is the only item skin that turns it into a completely different character though. All other skins change the appearance of something, Lantern skins are still lanterns, Chester's sheep skin is just Chester, but sheepish. Bernie is changed to Ashley, who isn't Bernie, ya know? you need not look that far. The moonglass eyebrella for instance isn't organic like its base item. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Variant Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Well-met said: you need not look that far. The moonglass eyebrella for instance isn't organic like its base item. I don't see how that goes against what I'm asking for though. It doesn't matter what its made out of, its still an eyebrella? Made of glass or organic it is what its name is. My concern is that Ashley as an item is still named Bernie. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainChaotica Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 As a filthy Willow main, I am ABSOLUTELY for this, and I have no idea what would be so awful about it. If you don't play as her, it will never affect you at all. So...why would you like...care...? I have an Ashley in my inventory and she's still called Bernie. It just bugs me 'cos it doesn't match up, ya know? ...Notorious Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantispidae Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I haven't touched willow in years and honestly, I think this would be an alright change. This is one of the few skinned items (if not the only one?) where the implication is that the skin is a completely different thing from the original- as opposed to just an alternate form of the existing base. I don't really think it counts a 'slippery slope' because its such a rare occurrence anyway. All the chester skins are still chester, all the Wurt skins are still Wurts, so on. Its a pretty minor detail but a cute one, and they might have been more worried about the idea of "skins changing the character too much" back when it originally released due to not being fully sure how different they wanted skins be and how much work customized responses like "Ashley!" might be in the long run if they did continue doing skins like that. But its been awhile and this is the only skin i can think of that would even remotely justify changing the observation quote for. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlrust Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I would say sure, this is kind of an exception to other circumstances seeing as how the skin offers conflicting information. It's an Ashley skin for Bernie, but in-game they're still called "Bernie". By lore standards this is quite possibly another doll from Willow's past, so it should be addressed as such. Like if Woodie had another axe named "Jill", I would expect the Jill skin in DST to not go by "Lucy" even though it's not a separate object. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/138166-suggestion-ashleys-quoteslines/#findComment-1547671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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