SHI_YE Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Self-use, which is the behavior of downloading other people's mods and changing the author name and content without authorization and then re-uploading it, I'm absolutely opposed to this. Every modder loves his works, which is like his children. Wouldn't you be offended if someone stole and tampered with your works without your consent? Would you like to see others put your works on their names and show them off? Imagine one day you opened the workshop and see all over the screen filled with your works self-used by others. None of them signed with your name, and subscriptions are even higher than your original works. Everyone praises who stole your works, and no one knows it is you created these mods. How would you feel? Self-use is not only immoral, but also seriously damaging to the enthusiasm of modders. Even if there is no copyright involved, should modders' works be treated with a minimum of respect? Klei should ban such self-use through practical management measures. And also, shame on those who steal the fruits of other people's Labour. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Klei cannot do anything about those mods. The original author has to fill out a form and work with STEAM to get them removed. There is a way to do it , google it if you want, I've never done that before. Valve is the one responsible for the workshop, not game developers. Klei just cannot help you in this regard, so stop asking. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1543997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
accelerztor203 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, BezKa said: Klei cannot do anything about those mods. The original author has to fill out a form and work with STEAM to get them removed. There is a way to do it , google it if you want, I've never done that before. Valve is the one responsible for the workshop, not game developers. Klei just cannot help you in this regard, so stop asking. So I don't have to take off the shelf and rectify the illegal mods, and you can't do anything if I continue to charge, right? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display__ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 It will cost much if KLEI take actions to deal with these cheaters, so KLEI is be completely indifferent about self-use mods. It is obvious that these self-use mod infringe upon author's rights.They should be censured whether KLEI deal with them or not.It matters principle.If some moders stop updating their works, they should ask for agreement first and then modify instead of copying directly. Some even earn money by providing paid items at server with others mods like Fengxue ,named as "风雪" in Chinese.How about it??? There is another way that KLEI can provide interface to allow moders to import LUA byte codes at their mod directly.Will it be OK? I do not think it is a trouble. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, accelerztor203 said: So I don't have to take off the shelf and rectify the illegal mods, and you can't do anything if I continue to charge, right? Klei cannot do anything about mods copying other mods. They can do something about mods that include payment. Remove them, that is. Do whatever you want with your mods, if they get removed you win because that's what you wanted, if they don't you win because you can feel smug about it. But stop asking people on the forum the same question over and over and then ignore the answer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
accelerztor203 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, BezKa said: Klei cannot do anything about mods copying other mods. They can do something about mods that include payment. Remove them, that is. Do whatever you want with your mods, if they get removed you win because that's what you wanted, if they don't you win because you can feel smug about it. But stop asking people on the forum the same question over and over and then ignore the answer. Everyone has the answer, the "keli official" I need, everything else is just a discussion to increase the heat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, accelerztor203 said: Everyone has the answer, the "keli official" I need, everything else is just a discussion to increase the heat YOU GOT ONE ALREADY. And if it doesn't satisfy you, leave. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Mods that are self-use, can be marked private. If there is an obvious self-use mod, report it as such and point out in the report that our mod guidelines specific say this and whoever gets the report should be able to deal with it appropriately. Most moderation on the workshop is handled by Valve. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gznc Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeW said: Mods that are self-use, can be marked private. If there is an obvious self-use mod, report it as such and point out in the report that our mod guidelines specific say this and whoever gets the report should be able to deal with it appropriately. Most moderation on the workshop is handled by Valve. Who can I report to? Can you remove these self-use mods? I'm glad to see that most self-use mods of uncompromise mode have been deleted. Does that mean you have the ability to solve the problem? How about these copied or self-use(in Chinese: 自用) mods? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2748596524&searchtext=神话 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2740784647&searchtext=神话 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2740901256&searchtext=神话 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2740361396&searchtext=神话 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2740320775&searchtext=神话 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2629879682&searchtext=神话 And these are self-use mods which show you in up to 13 pages! https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=322330&searchtext=自用&childpublishedfileid=0&browsesort=textsearch§ion=items&created_date_range_filter_start=0&created_date_range_filter_end=0&updated_date_range_filter_start=0&updated_date_range_filter_end=0 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, gznc said: How about these copied or self-use You have to report them yourself. The uncompromising mode situation was a special case because of several factors. Klei cannot help you directly, you have to report each of them yourself Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gznc Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, BezKa said: You have to report them yourself. The uncompromising mode situation was a special case because of several factors. Klei cannot help you directly, you have to report each of them yourself As far as I know, is the team of myth reporting less? Why should the uncompromising mode be a special case and the myth blame the world for being unfair? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 There are no "self use" mods currently reported. But yeah, there was a lot of them on the workshop for sure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BezKa Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, gznc said: special case 1. It's been one account spamming exact same mod multiple times. That breaks multiple sets of rules. 2. The account was pretending to be someone else. That's a very big violation of rules. 3. Multiple people (including me) reported the account. You can get what you want by reporting the self use mods. Encourage other modders to report plagiarism and reuploads as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, BezKa said: 1. It's been one account spamming exact same mod multiple times. That breaks multiple sets of rules. 2. The account was pretending to be someone else. That's a very big violation of rules. 3. Multiple people (including me) reported the account. You can get what you want by reporting the self use mods. Encourage other modders to report plagiarism and reuploads as well. i love how one person just said "no" as if that's a good reply to the current situation (the "no" is a reply right? im still new to the forums) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I should offer some clarification here, because I believe there is some confusion due to terminology. Copyright - is an issue that needs to be resolved through Valve's DMCA process. "Self Use" or mods that are meant to be shared only with friends should be marked as such and not visible on the workshop by other players. This is specifically mentioned in the guidelines. "Friends Only" mods are unmoderated. Mods that are "Self Use" or lack adequate description should be reported and will be removed from the workshop or flagged as Friends Only. As they do not follow guidelines. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodyRandom Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Velvy said: i love how one person just said "no" as if that's a good reply to the current situation (the "no" is a reply right? im still new to the forums) That's BezKa's signature Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraia Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Self-use isn't Klei's issue, report it to STEAM instead, they can probably do something about it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
accelerztor203 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 hours ago, JoeW said: I should offer some clarification here, because I believe there is some confusion due to terminology. Copyright - is an issue that needs to be resolved through Valve's DMCA process. "Self Use" or mods that are meant to be shared only with friends should be marked as such and not visible on the workshop by other players. This is specifically mentioned in the guidelines. "Friends Only" mods are unmoderated. Mods that are "Self Use" or lack adequate description should be reported and will be removed from the workshop or flagged as Friends Only. As they do not follow guidelines. Your terms clearly state: "Mods that make use of other people's work without credited permission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", thank you very much for your contribution to the community environment, I am sure you will I will do something, my purpose is achieved 2 hours ago, NightfallsCurse said: Self-use isn't Klei's issue, report it to STEAM instead, they can probably do something about it Many people have tried, haven't they, but to no avail Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
. . . Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 this is too funny Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dish-order man Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 8 hours ago, JoeW said: I should offer some clarification here, because I believe there is some confusion due to terminology. Copyright - is an issue that needs to be resolved through Valve's DMCA process. "Self Use" or mods that are meant to be shared only with friends should be marked as such and not visible on the workshop by other players. This is specifically mentioned in the guidelines. "Friends Only" mods are unmoderated. Mods that are "Self Use" or lack adequate description should be reported and will be removed from the workshop or flagged as Friends Only. As they do not follow guidelines. clear and fair, thank you man. I expect this for long. Sorry to ping you again but i'm afrid this reporter @gznc himself have a "self-use" mod for 5 years long on the workshop. here is the mod link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1216718131 in the first three sentences of this mod, it says: Spoiler Quote 自动清理和自动堆叠。 从河蟹防熊锁中提取。 自用。 that means "copied from the anti-bear-nock, self use". the origin mod is this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=841471368 I mean, that is a thing like a thief shouts to catch the thief。 Anyway, if possible, please make this mod "friends only" or "unlisted" please. thank you again for your dedication. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvy Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 20 hours ago, SomebodyRandom said: That's BezKa's signature oh, im a derp, thanks alot though! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/137901-please-remove-those-self-use-things-from-the-workshop/#findComment-1544531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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