SirPhoboseus Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 ethanol is above 300*F underneath the turbine but nothing is happening. Does steam turbine not work from ethanol steam? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 ehm? no, steam turbine works only with water and steam, steam is get from water after heated up Petroleum turbine can work with ethanol liquid Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPhoboseus Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, gabberworld said: ehm? no, steam turbine works only with water and steam, steam is get from water after heated up Petroleum turbine can work with ethanol liquid Thank you, I am using ethanol to power a petroleum generator and cool down stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPhoboseus Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 it would be cool if ethanol steam hurt the steam generator so i had a clue. going on like 250 cycles waiting for it to kick on Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, SirPhoboseus said: it would be cool if ethanol steam hurt the steam generator so i had a clue. Does it actually say "ethanol steam"? Steam is an element - gaseous form of water. Every element exists in gas form but only one is steam. Clicking on the book icon in any element's info box window, opens up the game's database Searching in the database for steam and steam turbine gives some more clues: Unless steam is a translation misunderstanding... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPhoboseus Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, sakura_sk said: Does it actually say "ethanol steam"? Steam is an element - gaseous form of water. Every element exists in gas form but only one is steam. Clicking on the book icon in any element's info box window, opens up the game's database Searching in the database for steam and steam turbine gives some more clues: Unless steam is a translation misunderstanding... Hi, that's my own mistake. I thought because ethanol turned from liquid to gas it was 'steam' but that isn't the case here. Thank you for your reply. I appreciate your input. edit: THANK YOU SO MUCH! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabberworld Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 by looking how real steam turbines work, it is possible use other gases as well , but because steam is cheapest , noone actually use others Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinhPham Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 real world turbines doesn't delete heat .... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaker Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 21 hours ago, MinhPham said: real world turbines doesn't delete heat Wait, what? I think You are wrong. They transform enthalpy which is basically temperature into another form of energy - kinetic energy of its shaft. Then this energy is transformed into electricity by generator. If You then use electricity to produce something else than heat, then yes - turbine is deleting heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 21 hours ago, MinhPham said: real world turbines doesn't delete heat .... Actually, it kind of does, just far less. Or rather it converts part of the heat into mechanical motion which then drives a generator and comes out as electricity. 50% or more you have to remove via cooling to keep the thing going if I remember the Thermodynamic cycle used correctly. That cooling need is far lower in ONI, or rather the steam turbine can self-cool (just barely), which does not work in real-world physics at all. Also, a real-world steam turbine does never cool the steam down to condensation as that would damage the blades. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPhoboseus Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 love all the replies! thank you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotic_gamer Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/29/2021 at 10:02 AM, Gurgel said: Actually, it kind of does, just far less. Or rather it converts part of the heat into mechanical motion which then drives a generator and comes out as electricity. 50% or more you have to remove via cooling to keep the thing going if I remember the Thermodynamic cycle used correctly. That cooling need is far lower in ONI, or rather the steam turbine can self-cool (just barely), which does not work in real-world physics at all. Also, a real-world steam turbine does never cool the steam down to condensation as that would damage the blades. the flip side is that in real life you can lose heat by radiating it into space Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, robotic_gamer said: the flip side is that in real life you can lose heat by radiating it into space Not very well, but yes. Also you may get heat radiated in the same way and not a small amount depending where you are. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/130338-using-ethanol-to-power-steam-turbine/#findComment-1464891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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