Dragolantis Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Maxwell is a CE turned CN (or CG IDK) Human Great Old One Warlock with the Entertainer background, Them as his patron(s) and the Codex Umbra as the source of Maxwell's Powers. Tell me I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyistheGround Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 isn't "Them" the moon though? or the creatures related to the moon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, SkyistheGround said: isn't "Them" the moon though? or the creatures related to the moon? pretty sure Them is just higher beings or something of the sorts so Alter does count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, Dragolantis said: Tell me I'm wrong. Okay. You're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyistheGround Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dextops said: pretty sure Them is just higher beings or something of the sorts so Alter does count fuelweaver mentions Them specifically, in a death quote: "You are not Them..." and im psure the ancients turned into the nightmare creatures as well + Them wasn't really mentioned until all the lunar stuff got added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragolantis Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, SkyistheGround said: isn't "Them" the moon though? or the creatures related to the moon? IDK, I think EoTS just confused me and a bunch of other people then actually answer questions. 10 minutes ago, SkyistheGround said: fuelweaver mentions Them specifically, in a death quote: "You are not Them..." and im psure the ancients turned into the nightmare creatures as well + Them wasn't really mentioned until all the lunar stuff got added Again, IDK who Them is (are if they are a group of beings), hence the idea for the Great Old One subclass. 14 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Okay. You're wrong. And do have a reason why I'm wrong, or was this just you making a joke (You were probably just making a joke, but I figured lets make this a discussion bc why the heck not?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMcGillacactus Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Aren't the patrons supposed to be the source of Warlocks power themselves? Not a very good deal if they aren't the people giving the power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 im sorry but i could alredy not follow whit all those weird words what is who and who is what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragolantis Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 50 minutes ago, GrMcGillacactus said: Aren't the patrons supposed to be the source of Warlocks power themselves? Not a very good deal if they aren't the people giving the power No Them is giving Maxwell his power in this build (IDK if this actually happens in DS) through the Codex Umbra 34 minutes ago, Dr.Medic said: im sorry but i could alredy not follow whit all those weird words what is who and who is what? Warlocks are magic users who get their power from a patron. Maxwell has a Great Old One for a patron, this patron(s) is Them If you don't know who Them is don't worry nobody does. He was an Entertainer before he got sucked into the Constant, and CE Means Chaotic Evil, and CN is Chaotic Neutral, and the CG in Parentheses is Chaotic Good, alignment determines the way a character will likely act. If you've ever played D&D the background, alignment and the warlock class should all make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echsrick Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Dragolantis said: Warlocks are magic users who get their power from a patron. Maxwell has a Great Old One for a patron, this patron(s) is Them If you don't know who Them is don't worry nobody does. He was an Entertainer before he got sucked into the Constant, and CE Means Chaotic Evil, and CN is Chaotic Neutral, and the CG in Parentheses is Chaotic Good, alignment determines the way a character will likely act. If you've ever played D&D the background, alignment and the warlock class should all make sense. actualy i mean more of those "words"? like i have literaly no idea what any of this is even souposed to mean like what is that? he turned from the letters of C and E to letters of C and N or a C and G i cant realy see how maxwell is suddenly able to just turn into letters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MondayNight Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Dr.Medic said: actualy i mean more of those "words"? like i have literaly no idea what any of this is even souposed to mean like what is that? he turned from the letters of C and E to letters of C and N or a C and G i cant realy see how maxwell is suddenly able to just turn into letters "Maxwell is a CE turned CN (or CG IDK)" = "Maxwell is a Chaotic Evil turned Chaotic Neutral (or Chaotic Good IDK)" Those terms are multimedia tropes, archetypes aka like stereotypes if you will. Example: TVTropes: Chaotic Evil (btw, you can use that site - TVTropes.org - for future references on these kinds of subjects). As for Maxwell, lore-wise, he seems to me more of a forced actor into an "evil" role, and over time intoxicated by "Their" mental warping effects, exaggerating his baseline propensities (for example, megalomania). After escaping the Nightmare Throne he seems to have a heavy cynical mindset, with "evil"-like residual influences from when he was under "Their" direct, nefarious binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragolantis Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 47 minutes ago, x0-VERSUS-1y said: "Maxwell is a CE turned CN (or CG IDK)" = "Maxwell is a Chaotic Evil turned Chaotic Neutral (or Chaotic Good IDK)" Those terms are multimedia tropes, archetypes aka like stereotypes if you will. Example: TVTropes: Chaotic Evil (btw, you can use that site - TVTropes.org - for future references on these kinds of subjects). As for Maxwell, lore-wise, he seems to me more of a forced actor into an "evil" role, and over time intoxicated by "Their" mental warping effects, exaggerating his baseline propensities (for example, megalomania). After escaping the Nightmare Throne he seems to have a heavy cynical mindset, with "evil"-like residual influences from when he was under "Their" direct, nefarious binding. thank you, sometimes it's hard to explain things like alignment to ppl who have not played D&D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragolantis Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 and I wanted to give a vague idea of Maxwell as a potential D&D character to play (because very little ppl have heard of this game which is sad, but you can play your DS or DST characters in D&D and nobody will know you're plagiarizing, I myself have a WX build.) And not a whole build because newbies to or people who have never played D&D might not understand the complicated mechanics. I was already pushing it with a basic D&D description and was proven somewhat right because of @Dr.Medic's confusion with alignments, and didn't want to dive into a whole build to flesh out some of the things . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAMMAL_MAN Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Personal Headcannon: Maxwell has viscous mockery and only uses it when saying "Hey Pal.. You don't look so good" or something of the sort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragolantis Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 17 hours ago, MAMMAL_MAN said: Personal Headcannon: Maxwell has viscous mockery and only uses it when saying "Hey Pal.. You don't look so good" or something of the sort I love this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofshovels Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I like this idea, and would love to see this fleshed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragolantis Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 hours ago, aofshovels said: I like this idea, and would love to see this fleshed out. Maybe I could make a fleshed out Character build sometime then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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