Tranoze Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 MORE pls, cuz 3 phase are not enough, not even close to misery toadstool level. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 No. One misery toadstool is enough. Not every boss has to be a pool of hp. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/#findComment-1449576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Spino43 said: No. One misery toadstool is enough. Not every boss has to be a pool of hp. I dont mean more hp, but more phase. Even phase 3 are not challenging enough for a boss got build up that long. Maybe phase 4 and phase 5 get less hp, but trickier attack tatic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/#findComment-1449803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 It's already got 3 unique phases that shift it's whole attack pattern. The closest we even got to this was Klaus, and the only thing that was unique is the lunge it gets. Other bosses might have new phases that swap new attacks, but they still usually use their standard attacks most of the time. The champion shifts it's whole pattern around whenever it goes into a new phase. Not every boss needs 99999 HP to make it a "challenging" boss. A boss should allow a player to test their skill against the fight and prepare more if required, and this shouldn't rely on HP to make it difficult. The fuelweaver is a good example of this. It only has 16K HP total, but can easily reverse any damage you did on it if you don't deal with it's special attacks properly while still being dispatched fairly quickly if you can. The celestial champion strikes a decent balance between challenging and tankiness; it has more then enough HP to consider it a true fight (37K is only topped by CK with enough red gems and toad/misery toad), but still retains a bunch of attacks that challenge your skill as well. The shadowbuff even helped with the issues I originally had with the fight: The spike walls make the spin attack in phase 2 far more dangerous (and it already was extremely punishing with a 100 X 5 move), while phase 3 frequently uses it's laser compared to it's standard melee range attack. Even with a 3X damage multiplier (thanks, chaud froid!) in my world pre buff, it still took me over 6 minutes to kill the boss solo, and that was after multiple practice fights to get the patterns down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/#findComment-1449814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranoze Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Maxil20 said: It's already got 3 unique phases that shift it's whole attack pattern. Yes that why i love it, But i still want more!! xD Maybe if you dont mine the remain after phase 3 but instead repair it with something you will get phase 4 and 5 What in my mind is replace 4 tentacles with 1 sword, one shield and 2 wing, turn him to celestial angel. Shiet this look too friendly, could this be celestial angel assist you in combat instead... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/#findComment-1449832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, Tranoze said: could this be celestial angel assist you in combat instead... Make it a Canon a la Atlantis the Lost Empire. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/#findComment-1449845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Tranoze said: Yes that why i love it, But i still want more!! xD Maybe if you dont mine the remain after phase 3 but instead repair it with something you will get phase 4 and 5 What in my mind is replace 4 tentacles with 1 sword, one shield and 2 wing, turn him to celestial angel. Shiet this look too friendly, could this be celestial angel assist you in combat instead... Dont let wagstaff take the energy if yoy want a phase 4 xD Kidding but seems like the champion can fight back again because of wagstaff Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129022-i-love-the-new-boss-and-the-new-content-so-far/#findComment-1449858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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