babba Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I nearly made the mistake to fuel rocket petroleum engines with ethanol. Perhaps mixing ethanol/oxygen ( or whatever substance ? ) with some other fuel type could create a very powerful new rocket fuel ? What could that be ? What do you think, should there be some ethanol or some new-ethanol-mixed-fuel rocket engine in the game ? Any ideas and creativity is welcome Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smife Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Moonshine engine perhaps? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRup Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 It's not like its cousin methanol isn't found naturally in space: https://www.space.com/33193-organic-molecule-planet-forming-disk.html Perhaps also allow it as fuel in the suits nobody uses... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghkbrew Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Maybe the petroleum engine should also run on ethanol. Just like the "petroleum" generator does. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxSam123 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Mmm, what about an electric engine? It's very unrealistic, but, it's ONi. Battery modules could be used as fuel modules, and it wouldn't need oxidizer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghkbrew Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, TuxSam123 said: what about an electric engine? The radbolt engine is basically an electric engine with a few extra steps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxSam123 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, ghkbrew said: The radbolt engine is basically an electric engine with a few extra steps. Are you sure? The radbolt engine emits lots of nuclear waste and heat when it takes off. The electric engine wouldn't do that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghkbrew Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, TuxSam123 said: Are you sure? The radbolt engine emits lots of nuclear waste and heat when it takes off. The electric engine wouldn't do that. Dealing with the nuclear waste is one of the extra steps I mentioned . You can just leave it to evaporate into the void with out too much trouble. My point is that the only thing consumed by the radbolt engine is the electricity used to create radbolts. The radiation can all come from static, free, infinite radiation sources. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxSam123 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, ghkbrew said: Dealing with the nuclear waste is one of the extra steps I mentioned . You can just leave it to evaporate into the void with out too much trouble. My point is that the only thing consumed by the radbolt engine is the electricity used to create radbolts. The radiation can all come from static, free, infinite radiation sources. Yes, but if you think about it, electric engines would be much efficient. There would be no energy loss when tranporting electricity to them. There wouldn't emit any gas when taking off. They wouldn't need oxidizer. If you say that they would be too op, the devs would only need to decrease their rocket height and speed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meltdown Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, ghkbrew said: Maybe the petroleum engine should also run on ethanol. Just like the "petroleum" generator does. I don't think that just allowing that is a good idea. Ethanol can be available much earlier than petroleum, so simply replacing the latter in another field without any downsides reduces motivation to explore oil biome. Perhaps ethanol may burn at higher rate, making ethanol-fueled rocket less fuel-efficient? That way, using petroleum rockets without petroleum is possible, but you would still have motivation to migrate on it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowdesign Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I think it would be much more reasonable to repurpose the oil refinery to be able to process ethanol to petrolium. Its a bit a balance question however, i am not so sure how much it would change. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxSam123 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Rainbowdesign said: I think it would be much more reasonable to repurpose the oil refinery to be able to process ethanol to petrolium. Its a bit a balance question however, i am not so sure how much it would change. What about crude oil? That does not make much sense. Ethanol is a resource of its own, with similar, but slightly different applications. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowdesign Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Well it would be easy enough to mod the oil refinery to support both (not making an offer but not excluding it either) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 3 hours ago, TuxSam123 said: Mmm, what about an electric engine? It's very unrealistic, but, it's ONi. Battery modules could be used as fuel modules, and it wouldn't need oxidizer Electric engines actually exist. They are called ion engines and work by creating propulsion by speeding up ionized gasses in an electric field. They need very little fuel but can`t create much thrust. They work best as deep space angines as they can work for long periods of time. In ONI they would be great as an extra booster module that can`t carry the rocket on it`s own but can extend the range and/or increase the flight speed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1448846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxSam123 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Sasza22 said: Electric engines actually exist. They are called ion engines and work by creating propulsion by speeding up ionized gasses in an electric field. They need very little fuel but can`t create much thrust. They work best as deep space angines as they can work for long periods of time. In ONI they would be great as an extra booster module that can`t carry the rocket on it`s own but can extend the range and/or increase the flight speed. Much like the solid fuel thruster on the base game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1449084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 11 hours ago, TuxSam123 said: Much like the solid fuel thruster on the base game Yes, althrough i`d prefer if they added that one too but make it increase the amount of modules you can install instead. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/128955-ethanol-rocket-engine-should-there-be-one/#findComment-1449411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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