Cheggf Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, AlternateMew said: To be honest, the most major use I see for it in DST is not being a burden to your team who decided to base at Pig King and not destroy the pig houses. The most major use of it is completely removing his only real downside. Picking a character with the racism downside means you either need to put a lot more time, effort, and/or creativity in how you acquire pigskin (and their meat drops) or ask your team to do it for you, which they probably won't. Adding the pig mask would make just as much sense as letting Maxwell hit the gym to buff up to 150HP, letting Warly take group therapy to have less suicidally high standards, giving WX some Rust-Oleum NeverWet Liquid Repellent, telling Wigfrid she isn't actually a viking and can eat anything she wants, giving Wickerbottom a pill to cure her insomnia and digestion issues, or giving Woodie some sunscreen. The characters have downsides for reasons, completely negating them isn't a good idea. If you have trouble with people basing at pigs you can tell them why their base location is bad (will not work), base somewhere else (possibly nearby), or not be at the base while the sun's up. Pigs go home when it's dusk or night, only being active during the day. Autumn has about 50% daylight, winter and spring go down to about 30%, and summer has about 60%, so regardless of season you have several minutes every day to do whatever you need at the base. The absolute shortest dusk & night will be is the 4 middle days of summer at 150 seconds. 46 minutes ago, AlternateMew said: Also, have you played Webber in Hamlet? Half the time I died there, it was because I forgot we were wearing that mask when going home to spidertown. It doesn't remove his identity. It juggles his identity, and at the cost of the head slot at that. I could see getting distracted because you spent 15 minutes in a pig city (at least at first, but after doing it awhile it should become natural), but these pigs are nothing like that. Hat on, feed pig, get drops, hat off. No time to forget you have the hat on, you're only doing one thing and probably only doing it for a few dozen seconds. It taking the head slot is also irrelevant because it's only worn for that one task that you're only going to be briefly doing where you don't need a different item in your head slot, or as you said for sitting in the pig-filled base where you also don't need something else in your head slot. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemporarySolutn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Cheggf said: And just remove his identity and only real downside? The only reason he has that mask in Hamlet is because pig trading is a very important mechanic of Hamlet. While the last part is true that doesn't remove his identity, I'm sure they'll give him another downside when they rework him but that's not a good enough downside to be upset about an item that you have to wear removing it. You still shouldn't be able to befriend pigs but it really wouldn't change a whole lot. Still can't reasonable base with pigs Still can't use pigs for companionship again the only thing you're neglecting here is the ability to not get beat up after you finish the pk minigame or are trying to trade with pk 14 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Picking a character with the racism downside Webber isn't racist Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, JustCrimson said: Still can't reasonable base with pigs Not a downside at all. 4 minutes ago, JustCrimson said: Still can't use pigs for companionship Not much of a downside. 4 minutes ago, JustCrimson said: Webber isn't racist Pigs are racist to him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemporarySolutn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Cheggf said: Not a downside at all. Not much of a downside. Neither is being attacked by pigs, you can just like- avoid them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, JustCrimson said: Neither is being attacked by pigs, you can just like- avoid them Pigs are the only source of pigskin. I just said how it's harder for Webber to get it, something that you actually need. You don't need to base with pigs and even if you aren't Webber basing with pigs is already a bad idea, that's not a downside at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemporarySolutn Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Cheggf said: Pigs are the only source of pigskin. I just said how it's harder for Webber to get it, something that you actually need. You don't need to base with pigs and even if you aren't Webber basing with pigs is already a bad idea, that's not a downside at all. uuuuuuuuh what you get pig skin, by attack pig, if you attack pig, pig attack you, mask not matter? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlternateMew Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cheggf said: Adding the pig mask would make just as much sense as letting Maxwell hit the gym to buff up to 150HP, letting Warly take group therapy to have less suicidally high standards, giving WX some Rust-Oleum NeverWet Liquid Repellent, telling Wigfrid she isn't actually a viking and can eat anything she wants, giving Wickerbottom a pill to cure her insomnia and digestion issues, or giving Woodie some sunscreen. The characters have downsides for reasons, completely negating them isn't a good idea. Well, I can't say I feel the need to comment further if you feel that a way to be more 'together' in Don't Starve Together is a bad idea. Since this thread is actually about a bug with Wurt being able to get gold, I'll bring it back to Wurt and her bugged item. Her Clever Disguise. Kind of lets non-merms mingle with merms. Apparently, this even includes pigs, if they're given the mask. Opinion? Do you think this should be removed? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, AlternateMew said: Well, I can't say I feel the need to comment further if you feel that a way to be more 'together' in Don't Starve Together is a bad idea. You are asking for the removal of the only downside in the entire game where teamwork can completely counter the downside. Every other downside is either completely unrelated to teamwork or at best only mitigated by it. Any character who's attacked by pigs can have a teammate tend to the pigs instead, nullifying the downside entirely. 6 minutes ago, AlternateMew said: Since this thread is actually about a bug with Wurt being able to get gold You bring up a good point. This is an off topic conversation so this will be my last reply. 6 minutes ago, AlternateMew said: Her Clever Disguise. Kind of lets non-merms mingle with merms. Apparently, this even includes pigs, if they're given the mask. Opinion? Do you think this should be removed? Yes. It's a character specific bug that unintentionally removes a downside. Maybe if it was only one or two of those things I wouldn't care but something with all three definitely shouldn't stay. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlternateMew Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I will agree that the bug part that lets Wurt trade with PK should be patched. The again, I only say that because I'm such a stickler for lore that it bugs me to see the one character who openly and actively hates all pigs trading with their king. No other reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeflakes Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I'd love it if the merm king could give candy, so that Wurt can still trick or treat. If this bug is still around when the event starts though, and there's no other way for her to trade, I won't hesitate to indulge in it. Candy's important. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Weeber having the Groucho glasses in dst has no sense. If he is a monster so he should be atacked by other mobs. I dont want another no downsides buffed wilson. The only reason for that item to exist is being able to play hamlet not to remove a little downside of a character with few downsides Also, if he has the mask, means that everybody can wear it. Imagine wortox with that downside remove or wurt throwing the lore to the toilet No, i think klei will be smart enought to dont bring that item to the game. Weeber has a lot of potential for a fun rework Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Hopeflakes said: I'd love it if the merm king could give candy, so that Wurt can still trick or treat. If this bug is still around when the event starts though, and there's no other way for her to trade, I won't hesitate to indulge in it. Candy's important. I got reminded that during the last event wurt was able to trade with the PK to be able to get candy, which makes no sense to me. I hope they change it so she can trade the unique halloween trinkets you find around and mobs drop, with the merm king instead, for candy (just during the event) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirsg Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 12:14 PM, Zeklo said: It's extremely unhelpful and even detrimental to withhold bugs that you are aware of. If you want to mess around with something in a way that's not intended turn to mods, not hiding bugs under a rug. Withholding bugs is good in my book. I honestly wish that abigail's flower worked the same way it did before wendy got her rework. It's was the worst kept secret, but fantastic while it lasted. Now that we have nothing that replaces it, we're in the dark ages. I'm all for withholding oversights that make the game more fun and interactive. Especially in the face of no good alternatives being offered after any oversight has been "fixed" for the worse. I don't main wurt and I don't care and see a huge value in gold while playing as her, but I seriously hope wurt mains the best fun while playing around with this bug. I also sympathize with them if the bug does get patched. But off record, I don't really care in this instance. I'm just in favor of withheld bugs as a general concept. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/122304-i-found-a-bug-that-allows-wurt-to-trade-with-the-king-pig/page/2/#findComment-1378560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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