Sx6944 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Original Deisng comes from: https://www.reddit.com/r/Oxygennotincluded/comments/9f4a7u/tip_compact_and_precise_spom/ I noticed it only reaches around 86% uptime. It's enough to operate as a SPOM but I want to push it a little bit further. Since SPOM is a design which exists for years. I don't think I need to explain but just show the pictures. The top atmo sensor is set to 700g and bottome one is 250g. All 3 gas pumps only cost just a little (around 1%) more than 2 pumps running full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobruk Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Fairly standard looking SPOM. I can't see why that would run 100% to be honest, but I'm glad it does for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx6944 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Changes I made are: 1. Change Atmo sensor settings. This is to save energy. 2. Change manual airlock to one insualted tile and one mesh tile. The mesh tile is the key. I don't quite get it yet because I am just trying different things. But I think this may help: https://imgur.com/a/HvW7LmQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Out of curiosity, have you measured the amounts of oxygen and hydrogen this generates? Because I remember electrolyzers can (or at least could) delete gas in certain cramped configurations. This gas deletion bug can make an electrolyzer have a greater uptime, as less gas is produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx6944 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Zarquan said: Out of curiosity, have you measured the amounts of oxygen and hydrogen this generates? Because I remember electrolyzers can (or at least could) delete gas in certain cramped configurations. This gas deletion bug can make an electrolyzer have a greater uptime, as less gas is produced. Here you go : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sx6944 said: Here you go : That number doesn't mean anything in this bug unfortunately. If the electrolyzer generates 888.8 grams of oxygen, then it gets deleted by a packet of hydrogen forming, that oxygen is still considered generated. You would need to measure how much oxygen and hydrogen leaves the system via your pumps to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Zarquan said: Out of curiosity, have you measured the amounts of oxygen and hydrogen this generates? Because I remember electrolyzers can (or at least could) delete gas in certain cramped configurations. This gas deletion bug can make an electrolyzer have a greater uptime, as less gas is produced. Was about to say the same. I think avoiding the gas deletion mechanism is the most important, for me at least. Not 100% uptime will cost you raw mineral and metal (more machines to get expected g/s yield) Not 100% matter processing will cost you water and Watts (as matter is deleted, and Watts from the pumping and processing are wasted) By the way this layout is interesting, so I'm waiting for the data about this deletion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx6944 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Fair point. I will test the production for both O2 and H2 and post results later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 So you are saying that you think that replacing the wall tile to the right of the electrolyzer with mesh is what makes the difference? I wonder why that would be? I mean normally the tiles above the electrolyzer are full of hydrogen, and the ones below are full of oxygen... why would having another gas tile to the right help? As long as there is only oxygen and hydrogen in the room and they are both next to the electrolyzer, it should always have somewhere to put the gas and so shouldn't delete anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, psusi said: So you are saying that you think that replacing the wall tile to the right of the electrolyzer with mesh is what makes the difference? Yes. Almost 2 years ago I posted similar build on reddit: https://new.reddit.com/r/Oxygennotincluded/comments/90fkqe/maximum_performance_electrolyzer_setup/ It was based on same principle of that additional space around electrolyzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 hours ago, psusi said: shouldn't delete anything. Agreed. By the way, it's called "gas deletion bug" by the community, so it does mean that until Klei announces this as a deliberate mechanism, it will remain a bug, meaning unwanted mechanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx6944 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Well, I did some test. The gas deletion is real Hydrogen production is around 111.8g/s in total 67.1kg Oxygen production is aorund 750g/s in total of 450kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Sx6944 said: Well, I did some test. The gas deletion is real Hydrogen production is around 111.8g/s in total 67.1kg Oxygen production is aorund 750g/s in total of 450kg Huh. At least, you get full H production ! Of course depending of the goal, but most of time people prefers O2 to be deleted, instead of H, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, OxCD said: Huh. At least, you get full H production ! Of course depending of the goal, but most of time people prefers O2 to be deleted, instead of H, I think That's crazy talk, how will you ever support 200 dupes if you just delete oxygen like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Zarquan said: That's crazy talk, how will you ever support 200 dupes if you just delete oxygen like that? Because my dups breath Hydrogen, huh. What a question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx6944 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, OxCD said: Because my dups breath Hydrogen, huh. What a question... Tbh, all of my previous games I was struggling to deal with oxygen over production. I think it can be solved by having one more tile of space on the left side of electrolyser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Man why is the silly thing deleting oxygen? There are three tiles of oxygen around it that it can put the oxygen into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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