Acid update - new pacu.

[Astrologic]

Since the game already has sulfur, I thought it'd be cool if the game had some use for it in terms of acid.
Pure acid (or just acid) could slowly break regular tiles, becoming polluted acid which would then lose its corrosive hazard, at least slightly.
Acid when mixed with water causes the water to heat up and turn into steam very quickly, leaving sulfur and steam.
Acid could have some electrical uses, perhaps a type of battery which could be neat.

Acid when dripped onto critters or dupes could cause instant damage, allowing for some kill-room designs, though hopefully not for your dupes.
Acid would likely have to travel through plastic pipes, and perhaps plastic would be immune to any form of acid damage, allowing acid to remain unpolluted.
I like this idea a lot as it gives plastic an additional use.

I thought perhaps there could be a morph of pacu that likes acid.  Some kind of aggressive pacu that could eat polluted acid and maybe excrete some unrefined metals.  To create polluted acid, you'd have to place the pure acid either on some natural tiles, or maybe drop metal (refined or not) into the liquid.

I thought it'd be a cool way to make unrefined metals renewable at long last, though still making them require adequate work, and a nice little system, though a dangerous one.  I'm not sure if there should be different pacus for different metals, or if it's random, or depending on the pollutant in the acid.  I guess anything would be cool.  Copper sulfate is a very beautiful deep blue, and that could be super awesome to see as a liquid a opposed to the brighter aqua-marine of water. (I think irl liquid copper sulfate is aqua-marine but who cares)  Acid is also used in the production of dyes and paints, so there's some fun potential there to make some very pretty things.  Who woulda thought that acid lets you see groovy colors? 

I also thought that it'd be nice if atmo suits protected from polluted acid, but I think pure acid would still get through, though at a slower rate.  
I don't know if acid would spawn naturally, but it would be cool to see some man-made acid biomes.  Perhaps certain plants could enjoy acid as well.
Acid 

I wouldn't want this to be a mod, I think it's a decent enough idea to make it into the core game.
Thoughts?  I'd love to expand on the idea.  Klei, use this idea PLEASE.  it's yours, take it.

-EDIT-
I thought I'd mention that this idea is ultimately a pretty safe addition in terms of player-base.  Don't like the idea?  Then simply don't make acid.  It doesn't force you to play the game any differently, but gives you the option to do so.

[Sasza22]

I think there should be an entire dlc focused around chemistry. A lot of elements could interact more with each other. Acid, especially sulfuric acid, could be used as a sort of fuel for a chemical station allowing certain reactions and material modification.

[pether]

AFAIR from my school (long time ago though) hydrogen reacts with oxygen along with huge explosion. If chemical reactions were implemented, Electrolyzer would turn into chemical bomb

[Sasza22]

22 hours ago, pether said:

AFAIR from my school (long time ago though) hydrogen reacts with oxygen along with huge explosion. If chemical reactions were implemented, Electrolyzer would turn into chemical bomb

That`s one of the problems with chemistry in ONI. But i`m pretty sure we can find a solution for it. Worst case scenario we could limit chemical reactions to a few spacialised buildings that handle them.

[Astrologic]

22 hours ago, pether said:

AFAIR from my school (long time ago though) hydrogen reacts with oxygen along with huge explosion. If chemical reactions were implemented, Electrolyzer would turn into chemical bomb

Hydrogen only reacts with oxygen with an ignition source (fire), and that explosion can be used to operate a generator.
That's how real life hydrogen generators work, though the in-game hydrogen generator just kind of eats hydrogen and turns it into electricity.
If it were realistic, it would have another input for oxygen, and a water output, and it would be completely power negative when used with an electrolyzer.  
I guess my point is, we don't need things to be realistic, the experience of the game and fun is primary.

[Coolthulhu]

On 3/21/2020 at 4:23 AM, Astrologic said:

I thought I'd mention that this idea is ultimately a pretty safe addition in terms of player-base.  Don't like the idea?  Then simply don't make acid.  It doesn't force you to play the game any differently, but gives you the option to do so.

It's a red flag for terrible idea when you have to defend it like that.

[Astrologic]

7 hours ago, Coolthulhu said:

It's a red flag for terrible idea when you have to defend it like that.

Well I know people like you exist, so I have to explain simple concepts for low IQs.
There's always someone who says "it's a bad idea, it'll break the game, it'll ruin x and y.
It's a red flag.  Waaah.  Don't add fun to the game, it's unfun for one specific person who had an allergic reaction to dust and this reminds that person about how fleeting life is.  Waaah."

How about instead of saying that it's a bad idea, you say WHY it's a bad idea.

What did your comment contribute?  Nothing.
There are people who fear change, and you dare insinuate that I refuted my own idea by trying to put people's minds at ease?
What's wrong with you?

If you don't like the idea, that's fine.  You don't need to be an ******* about it.
Next time, why don't you try saying what you like/dislike about the idea.  Try to make the idea better, or ignore the idea completely.

At this point, I don't really care what you have to say though.  Enjoy coping with your fear of change.

[Coolthulhu]

6 hours ago, Astrologic said:

Well I know people like you exist, so I have to explain simple concepts for low IQs.

It's a red flag for a terrible person when you have to defend your ideas like that.

[Astrologic]

8 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said:

It's a red flag for a terrible person when you have to defend your ideas like that.

Yet you're proving my statement by once again not contributing and doing exactly the same thing.
Look at this from my perspective.  You come on here, you shut down an idea without refuting a single point or even mentioning anything related to the topic, reiterate your "red flag" narrative because I suppose you can't think of anything more, and yet you wonder why I believe you have a low IQ.
Did you even read the post, or did you just look for a "red flag" to attack my ideas?

What's the point of your existence on this forum exactly?  Got nothing better to do?
I don't appreciate forum trolls.
I'd like you to please stop commenting on this post.  I consider it spam at this point as you're not adding anything to the discussion.
Thanks.

[Sasza22]

@Astrologic You should stop escalating before you get your thread locked. Insulting people that dislike your idea isn`t a good way to defend it. I see no reason to be so agressive in your responses. Obviously not everybody will like your ideas or the way you put them out. That`s fine. But if you start insulting people the thread will go nowhere and nobody will discuss th main topic.

[Astrologic]

4 hours ago, Sasza22 said:

@Astrologic You should stop escalating before you get your thread locked. Insulting people that dislike your idea isn`t a good way to defend it. I see no reason to be so agressive in your responses. Obviously not everybody will like your ideas or the way you put them out. That`s fine. But if you start insulting people the thread will go nowhere and nobody will discuss th main topic.

Thanks for patronizing me.
Do you not think I was insulted?  I come to a place called "suggestions and feedback", I post a suggestion, he comes along, gives no feedback, and tries to say my idea is bad due in part to something I said in hopes to compromise with those opposed to the idea.
I believed I was well articulated and concise in my suggestion, and the ultimatum I included was specifically to put minds at ease for those who may not like the idea, or may be uncomfortable with a new very minor mechanic.
How is what he said to me anything more or less than an insult?

He judged my idea based on the ultimatum I gave, not the idea itself.  Suggesting that my collaborative idea is bad because I knew specifically someone like him would come along.
I'll be honest.  I don't think toxic people like that should be permitted to shame people for expressing their ideas in a public forum.  I think it's disrespectful, and oppressive.  I can handle criticism.  Where was the criticism?
I can handle opposing ideas.  Where were the opposing ideas?
You have these people will no lives who get some kind of kick out of shutting down the ideas of others probably out of jealousy that they didn't think of it themselves.  

So let's say my idea is bad.  Come up with a better one and prove it to me.

As well, Perhaps you don't understand my outrage, and if that is the case, I'd appreciate you staying out of it.  

-edit-  I think the worst part is that if there are people who like the idea, they won't express it because of that user.

[entombed dupe]

 

On 3/24/2020 at 5:47 AM, Sasza22 said:

@Astrologic  But if you start insulting people the thread will go nowhere and nobody will discuss th main topic.

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