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Why is BBQ so out of wack?

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chemie    633

Mushrooms, berries and fish get a +1 increase in quality for cooking, from 0 to +1 (mushrooms, berries), or +2 to +3 (fish)

Why does BBQ take meat up by 4, from -1 to +3?

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Chthonicone    49

My take on this is that BBQ and Cooked fish are +3 because of the normal difficulty in getting a large amount of ingredients, it usually is mid game when you can make it consistently, about the same time you might make other +3 foods.

That being said, meat is -1 grisly, and fish fillets are +3 good. I have no explanation for this discrepancy other than the fact that it might be a nod to sushi, and fish are the harder farm to produce lots from.

That being said, in a game, not everything has to be perfectly balanced either, especially not in a single player game. It's ok to have one item be sub par compared to another so long as it's not completely useless.

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chemie    633
1 minute ago, Chthonicone said:

That being said, in a game, not everything has to be perfectly balanced either, especially not in a single player game. It's ok to have one item be sub par compared to another so long as it's not completely useless.

Well, yah, food is terribley balanced but this just seemed way out of wack for no reason.  It is a separate discussion on why beans are so bad and why pepper bread is so much better than anything else (one cooking step for +5 vs several others that take 3 cooking steps for +4)

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Promethien    188

Since they use ethanol beans are actually quite good. Ethanol is easy to manufacture and it doesn't freeze until well below the ideal temp for the plant. Its a very stable and cheap way to get to 5 quality food. 

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0xFADE    449

BBQ used to be a higher tier food requiring pinchapepper nuts and had the soul food buff.  It is probably an approximation of what CannedSmeef said.  You don't want to stop at BBQ.  Combining it with fish gets you surf and turf which is pretty amazing.  The food tiers got upgraded pretty well when they added the new stuff.

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chemie    633
20 minutes ago, Promethien said:

Since they use ethanol beans are actually quite good. Ethanol is easy to manufacture and it doesn't freeze until well below the ideal temp for the plant. Its a very stable and cheap way to get to 5 quality food. 

so making wood, running ethanol distiller, dealing with CO2, cooling the ethanol, adding water for tofu, and 2-3 cooking steps is "quite good"?  Compared to frost buns or pepper bread which requires free water, cooling the water, then 1 cooking step?

15 minutes ago, 0xFADE said:

....  You don't want to stop at BBQ.  Combining it with fish gets you surf and turf which is pretty amazing.  The food tiers got upgraded pretty well when they added the new stuff.

I disagree.  You have to raise the fish, and then 2 more cooking steps to go from +3 to +4.  BBQ should be +1 vs +3 and then I would agree that the surf/turf is good upgrade.

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Fish are a passive source of food though, that takes 0 dupe time up to the point where the pacu dies and is turned to food.

1 sweeper, 2 tiles of conveyor belt, a converyor loader onto a chute and you'll get "free" dead fish, and "free" egg shells.

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