minespatch Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Since I barely understand how the bridge systems work, can I get a simple idea of how to successfully put a bridge on without clogs? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypoeffort Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Inbound is white. Outbound is green. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Shocker said: Inbound is white. Outbound is green. That I get but for some reason, the way I'm doing, the bridge clogs my pipe system. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypoeffort Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Pics Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Trueba Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, minespatch said: That I get but for some reason, the way I'm doing, the bridge clogs my pipe system. If you post a screenshot, we can help you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Mr.Trueba said: If you post a screenshot, we can help you. I will when I can, at the moment my game is lagging due to the pipes. Something about my current base is lagging just due to pipes alone when I build or destroy them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypoeffort Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Always good to not have branches off the main water line. Just run it horizontaly through the inputs or outputs Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, Shocker said: Always good to not have branches off the main water line. Just run it horizontaly through the inputs or outputs Can you show me a screencap of this? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelirt Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, minespatch said: Since I barely understand how the bridge systems work, can I get a simple idea of how to successfully put a bridge on without clogs? @Kelirt linked probably one of the best resources out there. @Tobruk gives a very detailed explanation of piping and how the various connections interact. If you're still confused after reading that, ask some specific questions and we'll do our best to clear things up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Kelirt said: 8 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: @Kelirt linked probably one of the best resources out there. @Tobruk gives a very detailed explanation of piping and how the various connections interact. If you're still confused after reading that, ask some specific questions and we'll do our best to clear things up. Thanks so much. If I delete my 200 cycle base, I can keep this in mind now. Or just delete all my pipes then. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 I was asking due to my report. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, minespatch said: I was asking due to my report. I didn't see that you had a bug report. OK, grabbing your save file from the report and opening it and... .. there's a lot of work to do. I'll start with the first things I saw when I loaded your save... This right here is a huge problem. The liquid doesn't know where to go through the matrix. The next section to look at is your showers. The clean water piping is OK, for the most part. The polluted water, however, is a bit of a problem. There aren't enough pipe segments between one output and the next which means that even if the pipe were empty, if more than one dupe is using something here, the down-pipe device (shower, sink, whatever) might falsely detect a full pipe and quit early. Since we obviously have a backup here, lets follow it and see where it goes... OK, not bad. The T intersection could cause some troubles, but it isn't a huge issue. In my base I'd do something like this: Spoiler The bridge makes sure that the split at the T can only flow ONE direction. So, lets continue on... Ah, it leads into this mess. aside from the grid of pipes where things will get terribly confused, you have multiple input and outputs in a confusing arrangement. Starting at the top, we have a the output from the sinks that forms a loop: This is a problem. Lets fix it like so: Spoiler Your pinchas aren't going to get enough PW now, but we'll address that later. OK.. lets clean up the next spot like so: Spoiler OK. Polluted water is taken care of. Now to fix the clean water. We have a huge number of confusing paths, so... I'll go through the same method. Basically I'm finding anywhere that the water could take more than one path and either using bridges or deconstructing the pipe segment to make sure that the liquid only flows one way. Anyway, after cleaning up the clean water pipes, here's your save. Went from 14fps to 58fps on my computer. I would do my piping differently than you have, but at least the game moves fast enough that you can work with it now. Gravitas2.sav Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, KittenIsAGeek said: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 @Oozinator I did this. Once. At a smaller scale. On like day 3 of playing. Spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why my toilet wasn't working. Then I got a clue and watched the pipe overlay for a few minutes and saw the problem. Sometimes the obvious answer just doesn't click until someone points it out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher-7 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I can’t remember who posted this pic but I use it all the time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 This link may help Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Trueba Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Oozinator said: Hahahaha. You are a bad person! But that's funny. I can't image the pipes of my shower like this, haha. @minespatch Pipes are easy, don't overcomplicate yourself. Just think, like in real life. You have a lot of stuff done in your base for not know how to play. Try to turn off the sandbox mode and learn slowly how to do the things right. Try and fail, try and fail until you learn the right way. And the game doesn't have too many problematic bugs, so if you have performance issues in the early game (before 300-500 cycles without sandbox) its because you are doing wrong things, so keep calm and enjoy the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr.Trueba said: Hahahaha. You are a bad person! What when i would be Jesus, would you like to rethink your comment then? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Gravitas.sav Here's my new save file. I removed all my pipes and got simpler. Now the lag is gone. Big thanks to the person who replied to my bug report. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105621-pipe-bridges-explain-to-me-like-im-a-moron/#findComment-1188676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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