KittenIsAGeek Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 This is a first for me. High oil pressure caused damage to raw abyssalite tiles, causing them to crumble and letting oil pour into an ice biome. Spoiler This should be fun. I suppose that beats digging down into oil and having it spew back up into the base. What fun quirks have others encountered during exploration? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I once a had high pressure oil pocket separated from a magma pocket with a single sour gas tile. Sour gas heat transfer is so bad it stayed like that for 500 cycles and not much changed. I was afraid opening the oil pocket might cause a disaster though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1180598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Oil has pressure much higher than average density. If you look at the numbers, they constantly fluctuate, sometimes reaching 5k. This is an old bug. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1180604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said: Oil has pressure much higher than average density. If you look at the numbers, they constantly fluctuate, sometimes reaching 5k. This is an old bug. I am not so sure its a bug. One of the problems modern oil production has to worry about is the intense pressures that can unexpectedly crop up. I thought it was an intentional part of the game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1180610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, KittenIsAGeek said: I am not so sure its a bug. One of the problems modern oil production has to worry about is the intense pressures that can unexpectedly crop up. I thought it was an intentional part of the game. The way it dances around is almost certainly a bug. It only happens at high pressures, moves around very fast, doesn't happen to gases, is chaotic in a non-physical way, pushes to the top more than in any other direction. It's similar to the permaflow bug except without gas. It doesn't have any semblance of design. If liquids had clearly visible flows like gases do, I'm pretty sure Klei would fix this, because then it would be obvious that this is wrong. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1180664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, KittenIsAGeek said: I am not so sure its a bug. One of the problems modern oil production has to worry about is the intense pressures that can unexpectedly crop up. I thought it was an intentional part of the game. I agree. Considering every single full pocket of oil down at the bottom of the map is either mostly empty or over pressure leads me to believe this is an intentional decision. But Coolthulhu is also correct, the pressure dancing around anytime you force any liquid overpressure is definitely a bug. It's crazy how much the volume dances around when you get into to 30,000kg per tile range. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1180668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 7 hours ago, beowulf2010 said: I agree. Considering every single full pocket of oil down at the bottom of the map is either mostly empty or over pressure leads me to believe this is an intentional decision. But Coolthulhu is also correct, the pressure dancing around anytime you force any liquid overpressure is definitely a bug. It's crazy how much the volume dances around when you get into to 30,000kg per tile range. It doesn't make sense how you find it in the Oil Biome, though. You'll have a natural pocket of ~20 tiles, all of them Crude surrounded by a double row (or more) of Igneous. If you mouse over the Crude tiles near the corners (3 or 4 of them each), the mass per tile will be between 1.5 and 2.5 kg. It might fluctuate a little bit per tile, but not much. You then move your mouse more towards the middle, and things get very turbulent. One second a tile will have ~3 kg mass, the next it will have ~6 kg, then back to 4, then up to 7, then down to 1, then back to 3. And this is in a fully sealed, untouched, natural pocket with no gas or vacuum over it. There's no liquid flow anywhere, no other material pushing any direction (since solid Igneous doesn't tend to move much). There's no way that could possibly be an intentional behavior. And frankly, I've never seen such behavior anywhere else in the game. Even in the infinite gas storage configurations. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1180912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 From what I have seen, pressured oil needs triple-tiles to be safely contained. Material does not seem to matter though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1181010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 hours ago, PhailRaptor said: There's no way that could possibly be an intentional behavior. And frankly, I've never seen such behavior anywhere else in the game. Even in the infinite gas storage configurations. I agree. The weird fluctuations in over pressured liquids is a bug. And you're right. We don't see this in overpressure gasses. But build any type of liquid storage that uses overpressure and you'll see this. What I said I thought was intended was just the existence of the overpressure pockets of oil. . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105073-oil-pressure-damage/#findComment-1181021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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