Thalkas Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Hey everyone! I have small problem. I play with new beta. My duplicate have thoses traits: Spoiler Pacifist: cannot perform errand: Combat Mole Hands: +3 to dig Vomiter: This dupli is liable to puke everywhere when stressed But he cant work as miner. Anyone can tell me whats wrong? I tried relog world/game and still he cant do this job. Trait pacifist just "killed" his chance to being miner? Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Oh someone else reported the same issue in other post. Pacifist not being able to mine. I think it worths a bug report if it isn't done already. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1173743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalkas Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Junksteel said: Oh someone else reported the same issue in other post. Pacifist not being able to mine. I think it worths a bug report if it isn't done already. Thanks for answer! I found thread in bug tracker, good to hear it isnt just my problem. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1173745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiannaTiger Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 The pacifist doesn't want to hurt the rocks.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1173792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 It certainly hit my current game hard as I take on pacifists like there's no tomorrow as it's the least bad trait of all. In fact it's arguably beneficial as it reduces the number of dupes that go on critter killing sprees when you want it. However, with a morale system, and particularly with a skill based system, I really don't see why any dupes should be artificially barred from doing certain job. It would be much better if it just gave a morale penalty, similar to or even greater than the bonus given for interest. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1173800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWalker Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I believe this is because the digging attribute also determines damage when attacking; thus, when the system looks at which activities a dupe can't do it sees incapable of attacking as somehow related to digging, and so prevents the dupe from learning digging. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1173878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
impyre Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I'd hazard a guess that "attacking" is really just digging a creature. Or maybe digging is just "attacking" a block? Where's @Oozinator? Maybe he can clear this up? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1174156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 7 hours ago, impyre said: I'd hazard a guess that "attacking" is really just digging a creature. Or maybe digging is just "attacking" a block? Where's @Oozinator? Maybe he can clear this up? I try my best! Since 1837 Emil Lobermann invented the shovel grip and hit accidentally a wombat with the handle, digging is related to combat! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1174304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Hahahaha @Oozinator I can provide addtional proof - my granpa was hunting moles in his garden with a shovel! Definitely combat involved! So pacifist cannot hold a shovel in their hands. It is murder weapon. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1174307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzionut Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Same problem here. I play only whit pacifist dupe and if before upgrade i had 3 dupe who loved digging after none dig. It's a bug. Sow no update for me until goes stable. I am lucky whit my wife laptop where i use it as quines pigs for finding bugs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104518-dupli-cant-do-job/#findComment-1174313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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