Unn0ticedShadow Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Maybe if Shadow watchers at least drained your sanity when nearby them, than people might consider where they should stand around the campfire at night, or at least know that they exist... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonetribe Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I was considering some kind of new shadow creature that could somehow steal your items from your inventory and try to make off with them unless stopped, but that would kind of be stepping on krampus's toes and might just be a little too harsh in general. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCat Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 There is only one way to balance soul drops. Give mobs numbers like naughtiness points. The tougher the mob, the higher the number. If you get enough point by killing you can get a soul. As an example: butterflies 1 spiders 2 beefs 8 point and 10 is the max point to get a soul. Kill 5 spiders and voila. Reduce soul drop healing to 10 or 8 (8 is better imo) and food penalty from 1/2 to 1/3. You can also make healing 12 or 15 but if it heals more than 2 people healing must decrease to a lower point. Maybe make it 16 to 2 or less and 8 to 3 or more. You can also make 3 options or decrease the healing for every single healed character. There you go. You have a balanced-ish champ have fun! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datanon Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 19 hours ago, Pimenteroo said: Guys, seriously, if every character gets "balanced" the game will be full of willows. Is that what you want?! no, but i dont want the game full of wickerbottom/wolfgang either saying "i dislike x because y" is not a bad thing for the devs to collect feedback. the final word is theirs, giving your opinion is not a bad thing, stop trying to censor people saying they dislike stuff, just like how you dont criticize people for declaring they like stuff. stop labelling negative feedback as 'complaint' Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, Datanon said: no, but i dont want the game full of wickerbottom/wolfgang either saying "i dislike x because y" is not a bad thing for the devs to collect feedback. the final word is theirs, giving your opinion is not a bad thing, stop trying to censor people saying they dislike stuff, just like how you dont criticize people for declaring they like stuff. stop labelling negative feedback as 'complaint' some people seem to have complaining as their preferred activity and they don't even play the game regularly anyways. And the regular player base has to adjust to the changes to the vocal minority screaming nerfs to everything. as I and other have said before, we need to wait for the full characters rework to really ask for hard changes. For now, I believe fine tuning is probably more appropriate. the devs are clearly taking balance into account. That's why they already removed the sand piles, balloons, and other cheese methods already. tbh, I don't really see why hopping and the heals are such a big deal for some people. Ofc it's useful but I prefer a useful character to a completely useless one like Willow rn. Again, they need to adjust some values but the core of Wortox's gameplay is really fun... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Everytime a character would get added/changed 75% of people would hop on pubs/their worlds and be that chatacter, then like 5% of them would main them 24/7. It's just useless and pointless to give feedback on characters when theres literally an eighth of all characters updated to the new balance system. Also NERF WES PLS NERF WES Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minespatch Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Datanon said: , stop trying to censor people saying they dislike stuff, Just gets a tad annoying when you get twenty to fifty threads about "Wolfgang vs wigfrid". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datanon Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, FreyaMaluk said: tbh, I don't really see why hopping and the heals are such a big deal for some people. Ofc it's useful but I prefer a useful character to a completely useless one like Willow rn. Again, they need to adjust some values but the core of Wortox's gameplay is really fun... most of the unbiased, actually useful negative feedback i see is from people that are okay with what the character currently does, and is just not okay with the numbers. but even then if some people are not okay with some parts of his gameplay they have the right to say that 14 minutes ago, __IvoCZE__ said: It's just useless and pointless to give feedback on characters when theres literally an eighth of all characters updated to the new balance system. unbiased feedback is useful even in pre-alpha my dude 16 minutes ago, minespatch said: Just gets a tad annoying when you get twenty to fifty threads about "Wolfgang vs wigfrid". yes, of course, but glorifying absolutely everything for any specific reason doesnt help either. character balance is a very problematic topic and its getting revised by klei this year, so of course there will be a lot of noise; you shouldnt discard every single comment because of that, though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeliarBAD Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 a Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, BeliarBAD said: why the **** do you troll. yes and yes you noob I think what he means is that your comment on who qualifies for commending according to you is kinda ridiculous... You don't need 3k in each game to be proficient or analyze some aspect of the game from your own perspective and feel free to transfer insults in a personal message pls... we don't really need to know that... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BeliarBAD said: bro you talk so much **** in the forums. wig is the easiest char... lol saying that shows youre a noob like the most here. and man ive you in my friendslist so ik how good you are or not. no need to lie here I got no idea who you are... xD... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeliarBAD Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 a Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, BeliarBAD said: im the one who helped you so much in gorge and forge... ive saved all your asses. playing as lvl 175 with you guys to help you get your recipes, daily missions, daily wins... nvm. but now you call me bad things lol.... guys stop insulting players for playing wigfried. im serious. if she so easy to play why dont you play her. Freddo films makes videos about that she needs to be buffed, you guys here say shes op as hell. the true is... you dont know how good or bad wig is. cause you DONT play her. Now u say u "saved" me all the time.. like seriously... and really?? buffing Wig?? lol.. u might have 3k in the game but u need to reevaluate how u look at balance... and just because one guy says to buff wig doesn't mean she really needs it... u can pull a poll in the forums and you'll get a good answer to that question I've played with Wig before... specially when I want an ez game, babysiting noobs and helping with helmets.. ok.. since this is going into a personal territory .. we can continue this privately.. we don't need to flood the forums with this ... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxposting Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Why Characters Need to be Balanced (At least in don't starve together) 4th Page What I expected: What I got: Wortox is kinda buff but we expect I hab no idea who u are, wig main izi nunu it to be okay later when all characters updates xd u suk no u A A A What It Feels Like: A comprehensively atrocious, dissatisfactory embodiment of detachment from autochthonous matter in hand that should have been prepossessing confabulation about equivalence of function of undoubtful cast that is famishing in a computerized game that has simulated, artificial information that leads into the ages that could have been forgotten if we didn't have in handmonographs that depict days of superannuated ages. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeliarBAD Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, FreyaMaluk said: I've played with Wig before... specially when I want an ez game, babysiting noobs and helping with helmets.. and again insulting.... ive deleted my post. this is no fun with you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unn0ticedShadow Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 I find Wigfrid to be one of the few entertaining and balanced characters, which is why I play her, not because she's really good, but rather because she is not only great at supporting the team in making helmets, but also has very fair downsides in order to make up for that, such as not being able to eat any meat at all. Honestly I feel that Wigfrid is well made enough I almost don't want her reworked, and if so a small nerf at best. While she is far from bad, she is also far from being overpowered. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104306-why-characters-need-to-be-balanced-at-least-in-dont-starve-together/page/4/#findComment-1172221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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