DNsingbanana Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Really happy we get to finally touch this beauty ! My thoughts on two things however : -It's actually the first time we see a bit of the game played in normal speed! It looks so weird ! The cycling speed of the manual generators and the oscillations of the digging tool look really really slow. Too slow. For the manual generator it doesn't feel like the dupes are putting any energy in it, and for the digging tool it doesn't look like.. digging. For me increasing the animation speeds of these rwo things in normal speed would put a bit more juice visually. -I like the red alert concept, however having it being global looks really constraining. Couldn't we have a way to have it take place only on certain places, like having an alert building that will only wake up duplicants in a certain range ? That way we can make intervention teams for problems during the night while other duplicants can rest, and also if we ever make two separate bases you don't have duplicants at the other end of the map waking up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PudgeBalloon Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 It did feel weird it being on normal speed after seeing it sped up every time, however, I assumed they were performing so slowly because they're currently untrained and would speed up as they get better at that skill, will be interesting to see. I like the idea of alert towers with the possibility of setting certain dupes to react to certain towers/alarms. Depends how often you're likely to need to hit the big red button I guess. Really looking forward to getting my hands on it in 5 days!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp33dlink Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 My feedback: Shouldn't the coal generator consume oxygen and create co2? Could be cool to deal with the venting for the generators and keeping the co2 away from the dupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrexus47 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 20 hours ago, PudgeBalloon said: It did feel weird it being on normal speed after seeing it sped up every time, however, I assumed they were performing so slowly because they're currently untrained and would speed up as they get better at that skill, will be interesting to see. I like the idea of alert towers with the possibility of setting certain dupes to react to certain towers/alarms. Depends how often you're likely to need to hit the big red button I guess. Really looking forward to getting my hands on it in 5 days!! placing red alarm lamps would fit in amazingly, or a siren or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenhorLevi00 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, sp33dlink said: My feedback: Shouldn't the coal generator consume oxygen and create co2? Could be cool to deal with the venting for the generators and keeping the co2 away from the dupes I think this already happens, they put the coal generators at a room with That air locker just to "jail" the co2... It's just a thought, maybe they did that because the coal generator creates so much heat, and this may cause the dupes to freak out. My suggestion is to put a radioactivety system, with some cool radioactive elements like uranium and plutonion and the dupes uses that in a nuclear reactor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmethink Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, sp33dlink said: My feedback: Shouldn't the coal generator consume oxygen and create co2? Could be cool to deal with the venting for the generators and keeping the co2 away from the dupes I was hoping someone asked this question.... I felt the coal generators should consume oxygen and since the room didn't have an oxygen vent, it should stall out once all the o2 in the room was consumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faecalstorm Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 and if you box up gasses in a room the pressure should increase and temperature. so you need intakes and exhuast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted February 11, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, Faecalstorm said: and if you box up gasses in a room the pressure should increase and temperature. so you need intakes and exhuast Welcome to the forums, and congrats on the 1000th post in the ONI section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNsingbanana Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Well pressure exists, as we've seen algae deoxydizers stop functionning when the pressure is too high, so i guess for coal generators if they kept this system for more time it would've stopped because of the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi01 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I'm not 100% sure they said this but I think they said that water can be split into oxygen and hydrogen and that that hydrogen can then be turned into energy. Pretty sure hydrogen is burned to produce energy though which means using it to produce energy after getting it from water wouldn't produce any energy (I could be wrong though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenhorLevi00 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Michi01 said: I'm not 100% sure they said this but I think they said that water can be split into oxygen and hydrogen and that that hydrogen can then be turned into energy. Pretty sure hydrogen is burned to produce energy though which means using it to produce energy after getting it from water wouldn't produce any energy (I could be wrong though). You are 100% right. If you build a machine called eletrolyzer, you can absolutely do this! They said that on the first or second stream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNsingbanana Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 I hope we then get a deelectrolyzer that lets us combine oxygen and hydrogen into water ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenhorLevi00 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 35 minutes ago, DNsingbanana said: I hope we then get a deelectrolyzer that lets us combine oxygen and hydrogen into water ^^ I was wondering about that, like: you throw some oxygen in a room full of hydrogen and, with the pressure, they react and forms water! That would be be so cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 hours ago, DNsingbanana said: I hope we then get a deelectrolyzer that lets us combine oxygen and hydrogen into water ^^ You only need to burn the Hydrogen to do that, since the result product is water and also the reaction releases energy: 2H2 + O2 = 2H2O + Energy In the other hand, electrolysis does the exact opposite: consumes energy to get Oxygen and Hydrogen: 2H2O + Energy = 2H2 + O2 Note: I'm talking about chemistry on a game forum... Yes. I'm that fun at parties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted February 12, 2017 Developer Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Octyabr said: You only need to burn the Hydrogen to do that, since the result product is water and also the reaction releases energy: 2H2 + O2 = 2H2O + Energy In the other hand, electrolysis does the exact opposite: consumes energy to get Oxygen and Hydrogen: 2H2O + Energy = 2H2 + O2 Note: I'm talking about chemistry on a game forum... Yes. I'm that fun at parties... I have a feeling I'll have an excuse to play this game and chat about it on my study breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Imagine that an insanely accurate version of this game could be made for teaching purposes like Valve did with Portal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobbstar Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Octyabr said: Imagine that an insanely accurate version of this game could be made for teaching purposes like Valve did with Portal... I mean, they are also teaching just about everything with Minecraft (I still get coding, but history?). I, for my part, hope, this game doesn't become a part of school and instead encourages people to do research in their free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNsingbanana Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Magical portals used for teaching purposes ? X) From what i've seen thought, they sseem to have gone the route of "nothing's created, nothing disappears, everything transforms" as there don't seem to be materials that are lost. The only thing they might have forgotten is that duplicants should emit heat as they consume calories, but i would like to see if you basically consume as much water for food as the duplicants then eject or things like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenhorLevi00 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think make a game 100% accurate about chemistry and physics is a very difficult task but its a possibility to use oni for teaching purposes who knows?? The game is on pre alpha yet, but i can see a very strong potencial in this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cha0Z Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 So, ONI will be an educational game...LOL The energy produced by electolysis of water is less than required to split H2O in H2 and O2, but the process can be favorable using a solar catalyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octyabr Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, Cha0Z said: So, ONI will be an educational game...LOL To a certain extent... yes. Only some basics of course (inorganic chemistry and some thermodynamics here and there, etc.) 36 minutes ago, Cha0Z said: The energy produced by electolysis of water is less than required to split H2O in H2 and O2, but the process can be favorable using a solar catalyst. Electrolysis actually consumes energy, but if you mean the energy produced by burning the resulting hydrogen, then yes, it will be less (it always be less...) thanks to entropy, which I hope the devs don't include. Hmm... Entropy not Included... Nice name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenhorLevi00 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Man that would be so sick, a science game... maybe there inst such a game avaible, it will be very funny to play with thermodinamics, radioactivity, chemical reactions, pressure, density of fluids, eletricity, energy and matter properties... Just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNsingbanana Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Well i sure hope we get (maybe later as a dlc) some super nerdy science to do, like we get to play with some liquid hydrogen, and that late game science requires you to do incredible things with physics ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapkat Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I know they've said they don't want to be able to start with customized dupes probably to add to the realistic and random parts of the simulator, but I think it'd be cool to have a system to customize your own dupes (with balance making mechanics) that can then be added into the rotation of random dupes you can start with/get while playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrexus47 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Zapkat said: I know they've said they don't want to be able to start with customized dupes probably to add to the realistic and random parts of the simulator, but I think it'd be cool to have a system to customize your own dupes (with balance making mechanics) that can then be added into the rotation of random dupes you can start with/get while playing. like in projekt zomboid, where you can only give your character that many possitive quirks and level it out whit negative ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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