Azunai333 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Hello there, in this thread I posted the natural occuring gases with it's sorting forced by it's own weight: Some people wanted to have a list with more gases. So here we go. The list with the gases currently in the game (SU-291640, some of the elements are available in debug mode only): The temperatures are where the gas will condence. PS: The room has a temperature of 6000 °C (for tungsten). Now my 'hot' gold volcano doesn't seem to be that hot anymore... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nativel Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azunai333 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nativel said: Forgot minus on helium temp. Thanks. I fixed it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 It might be useful to create 3 separate stratification tables, because most of those gasses cannot occur at the same temperatures. It's useful to have the temperatures listed in one table, but I'd separate them into three different thermal range tables. One table would be normal, livable temperatures, displaying gasses from -50C to 100C, with anything that is gaseous in that range such as oxygen, hydrogen, natural gas, etc. Second table would be extremely hot temperatures, ranging from 100C to 500C, with elements that only become gas at this range such as sour gas, phosphorous, steam, and the commonly encountered gasses like hydrogen or oxygen. Last table could be extreme cold temperatures, containing anything that is still gas at -260C to -50C, such as hydrogen, oxygen, and methane. Having every element in the game in one table is useful, but debug only elements isn't going to help anyone, and comparing elements like rock gas and carbon to common elements like oxygen is less helpful, when they almost never are encountered in the same room. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azunai333 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, crypticorb said: but debug only elements isn't going to help anyone Good point. Maybe I should just remove the debug only gases or just make them grey or something. 44 minutes ago, crypticorb said: It might be useful to create 3 separate stratification tables, because most of those gasses cannot occur at the same temperatures. That's right. But that's why I added the condensation temperatures. All gases have in common that if go lower then this temp it will condence into it's liquid form. Even if some gases are missing, it still won't change the sorting of the leftover gases. So, for example, if you have a room with 500 °C all gases with a higher condensation temp won't be in the gaseous state anymore: Carbon, Rock Gas, Steel, Iron, Copper, Niobium, Tungsten and Gold are now liquid or solid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Azunai333 said: So, for example, if you have a room with 500 °C all gases with a higher condensation temp won't be in the gaseous state anymore: Carbon, Rock Gas, Steel, Iron, Copper, Niobium, Tungsten and Gold are now liquid or solid. Along with the debug only gasses, I think the gasses that you mentioned should also be omitted, because they're currently impossible to obtain with outside of debug, even if the element does exist normally. It's not possible to create carbon gas or gaseous metal, as the maximum temperature that can be manufactured is 975C, and the hottest temperature found naturally is with iron or gold volcanoes, around 2500C. There was an exploit pre-Space Industry that allowed the aquatuner to literally melt regolith, but it was fixed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSatx Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 thanks for this; i'd say take it for what it is people, he's already done us a favor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 What is propane in this game? Isn't that natural gas? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, bleeter6 said: What is propane in this game? Isn't that natural gas? propane is propane - you can clearly see natural gas on the list already bud. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Does propane and methane have relevant differences in real life usage? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, bleeter6 said: Does propane and methane have relevant differences in real life usage? Spoiler https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=propane+vs+methane&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB819GB819&oq=propane+vs+methane&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3675j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98145-gases-and-their-natural-sorting/#findComment-1111621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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