I present to you, the Thermal Annihilator!

[Nickerooni]

8 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

I cool my gold volcano with a single aquatuner that runs intermittently. I'm honestly a little confused by what you're working on  

Instead of the aquatuner, you let the petrol heat up to 300 or so degrees. Then, run piping through the petrol with supercoolant. Run the hot supercoolant, via insulated ceramic pipe, to heat the steam below your turbines. I attribute the idea to you, I just stripped out the aquatuner. It seemed superfluous.

The cooling loop should work without pipes breaking as long as you run it continuously. If the petrol gets hotter, say 400 degrees, then that means so does the supercoolant. That would mean more heat goes into the turbine machine. The turbine don’t care. It’ll take 250 degree steam as happily as 400 degree steam and you’ll eat up any excess DTUs faster than a bear ****ting on the pope.

The downside is you end up with 300 degree volcano leavings, which is a bit inconvenient to deal with.

[Iriswaters]

His point about the aquatuner was just to give an idea of how much heat they give off.

A max quality gold volcano gives off 500 g/s, 10% erupt time, 80% active time.  That's an average of 40 g/s.  An average one balances at 7.5g/s total. The temp is 2627C.  Getting it down to steam engine temp is 2400° of shift.  SHC is 0.129.

That's 40*0.129*2400 =12,384 DTU/s
Average is only 2322.

We are talking in the millions.  It's a lot of temperature, but metal doesn't hold much heat.   That is part of why it heats up so easily, and cools off so easily too.   Some is the high thermal conductivity, but it is also just that it doesn't take much heat to warm it up.   Or cool it down.   No volcano or geyser produces as many DTU/s as even 1 supercoolant aquatuner.

So yes, I am very well aware that this is all a lot of nonsense.  It's fun though.

Maybe with an ice planetoid, and a LOT of mining ships sent there.   All to bring back water to make rocket fuel to....

[Iriswaters]

The point of the exercise, for me, was to see how far I could push the energy production per DTU.  The answer is... not really very far at all.  Lol.  They are good for destroying heat.   They are not particularly useful for generating energy.

Time to get back to my still-don't-have-steel, constantly on the edge of dying, max difficulty playthrough.   Lol

[Nickerooni]

@Iriswaters, if that’s what you’re optimizing, stacking turbines doesn’t do much other than reduce your pumping costs. Good luck in your play through!

The map I’m on has 2 volcanos and 2 iron volcanos. A volcano produces 1MDTU/s, if you attempt to cool them to 300 degrees. As does the iron volcano. Gold volcanos - not so much. Maybe .2?

My challenge is moving the heat from all those volcanoes into one spot, since this thing I’m gonna build is huge.

[Iriswaters]

Volcanoes produce less than 100,000 DTU.  Iron and gold produce between 4k and 24k.  Way less than you might imagine.   They produce infrequently, in small amounts, of a material with very low shc.

Max volcano is 2000kg*0.01 erupt*0.8 active*1500 temp*0.2shc

4800 DTU/s!!

[Lifegrow]

7 hours ago, Iriswaters said:

His point about the aquatuner was just to give an idea of how much heat they give off.

 

41 minutes ago, Iriswaters said:

Volcanoes produce less than 100,000 DTU.  Iron and gold produce between 4k and 24k.  Way less than you might imagine.   They produce infrequently, in small amounts, of a material with very low shc.

Yeah, this was my thinking - I've made numerous builds in the past trying to run steam turbines with conveyor rails of hot metal and things like that - they often spin up a bit and you're like "HUZZAH IT WURKS I AM AN GENIOOS" then it goes dormant for 50 cycles whilst it warms up again  

I'm now just treating turbines, as I think most people are, as heat deletion with a little boost of power to offset the loss occasionally.

However, that said - i've never had a playthrough with 4 hot volcanoes to have a ptinker with - so you could probably come up with some monster build if you could just contain all the heat in one area.

 

[Iriswaters]

4 hot volcanoes combined would still be less than one hot steam geyser.  A maxed out hot steam geyser is almost enough to power a 1 vent steam engine.  Almost.  Combine it with a tuner to get it down to sleet wheat temps and it gets there.  Of course the average geyser is about 1/4 of the max.

[anton_stezhkin]

You can replace the pumps with hydrogen or doors to make it better