np5jx61 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 ①传送技术：（耗电，建议4级科技） 从克隆人的到来方式我们知道，他们是掌握着传送技术的。所以，没有道理在游戏中不加以体现。 配套科技： 传送门技术：外形大小与其他门一样，克隆人进入后进行传送。通过控制中心对门进行编号，A—A 、B—B......，可以双向互相传送。传送门的设计可以完全取代用梯子、滑梯进行上下移动，不过相应的，该技术非常耗电，耗电按每次的传送距离计算。 坐标链接器：大小1*4.这是一种有一定的覆盖范围的建筑物，如果想要两个传送门互相连接在一起必须覆盖在这个建筑物的辐射范围之内，相隔较远的两个门需要使用多个坐标站连接在一起。辐射范围15*15。 传送控制中心：大小与高级研究中心相当，用以对传送门进行编号，控制中心需要自动化电池进行供电，保证传送门每次使用时的供电能力。该建筑必须建筑在带有坐标辐射区域的范围内才能生效。 ②：地热发电（建议4级科技） 不同于其他的发电技术，地热发电拥有着取之不尽用之不竭的超级优势。 配套科技： 吸热管：深渊晶石制造的管道，长15宽1。用以插入岩浆。耐高温3000℃。 冷却风箱：深渊晶石制造的建筑，4*8大小。链接吸热管的一端，与液体管相连接，把水直接汽化生成超热蒸汽。该建筑无需电力。其实这就是一个可以人力控制的蒸汽喷口。（该建筑也可以用耐热砖包裹，形成高压高温区。） 蒸汽发电机：与超热蒸汽链接，用以发电。生成低温纯净水（15℃）和电。发电功率与进入的蒸汽温度有关。 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 那个传送的似乎会需要相对论的样子 这个想法其实蛮不错的。 吸热管其实应该用金属吧? 因为晶石导热超差。 现在的更新版本(太空工业更新)已经不允许直接用晶石建造，要加工成超物料才能用。 蒸气发电机很久之前已经有了。 你是否在使用旧版本? 提醒一下，不用英语会让很多人看不懂...... 下次用英语吧。 Please use English next time. 要不我来翻译? May be let me translate? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1110393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Translated (not 100% translated, but I’ll try :p) I’ll skip the geothermal part because I think this guy is using an older version (that is without steam turbines) Teleport Tech & Geothermal Power ①Teleport-Tech (high power drain. Suggested as tier 4 technology.) Form the beginning we know that the duplicants used the teleport technology to get there. It seems that they own this technology. There is no reason for not implementing this into the game. Technologies: Portal gate : Same size as other doors. it teleports duplicant to its corresponding gate once duplicant stepped into it. Teleport links are built by the gate command, grouped into pairs like A-A , B-B...... e.t.c. Two-way teleport is allowed. This will replace the need of ladders and the poles, however, it is very power-consuming. Power consumpution is defined by teleport distance. Gate Coordinator : Dimension 1w×4h. This building has a cover range like the auto sweepers, which it can connect the portal gates (otherwise it’ll not work). To connect portals further, you can build a network with multiple Coordinators. Connection range/coverage 15×15. Gate Command : Dimension 2×2. This building manages your portal network, connecting portal gates. To ensure portals working, an smart battery must be connected to it. Also requires Coordinator connection. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1110411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArunPrasath Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Current storyline is going to different. Dupes would be clones printed in a pod based on predefined templates. Otherwise, i suppose the teleportation method would be useful especially since the map may be expanded 4x in the future (was 4x the current size when the developers decided its too demanding to simulate it and reduced the size). It takes a long time to move from one place to another. But even worse i think is the game lag in older (and even newer) computers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1110414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Teleporters always sound like great idea for Trekkie fans. A point travel or just (re) spawning somewhere hopefully doesn't create frame rate issues if Klei does it right. IMHO I have doubt that Klei will increase the map size. A lot of players are suffering with low frame rates on low to average speed pc systems. Some have stopped playing because of that or recheck the game every few months to see if there is FPS improvements. As a compromise... What about building Coop on an additional 128x128 map for two players, in space, building a space station in team work? Changing from the normal own map to that coop map would include loading times for both players. The players need to bring resources to this space station Coop map via their own rockets. All resources on the space station map are shared for both players. So players would talk with each other, to coordinate how to proceed on the map and discuss who does what. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1110415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArunPrasath Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I doubt ONI will ever become a multiplayer game. The game is extremely laggy as it is now. I'm running a pretty good system and i'm down to 10fps when the map is 50% explored. Its a nightmare beyond that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1110423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Yeah, but we can hope Ive mentioned it a few times in the past - Dont know if this something for you. I will mention it once more for now here...In debug mode one can fill all empty tiles with Neutronium. Some players like to start debug, others not. If you recover 25-75% of tiles by filling them with Neutronium, you will regain a certain amount of game speed - Neutronium tiles are not part of the simulation. I play with Neutronium as default, my map has 95% Neutronium ( playing on x10.66 map size ). My new name for this style of gameplay is "Neutronium Enriched" - Im still hoping for the Atomic Age to arrive in the game, with radioactivity, reactor cooling stuff etc. My playstyle is Factorio-Tycoon-Neutronium-Enriched (FTNE), with lots of AETN`s Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1110442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
np5jx61 Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 2018/11/6 at PM8点24分, Madbro said: 那个传送的似乎会需要相对论的样子 这个想法其实蛮不错的。 吸热管其实应该用金属吧？因为晶石导热超差。 现在的更新版本（太空工业更新）已经不允许直接用晶石建造，要加工成超物料才能用。 蒸气发电机很久之前已经有了。 你是否在使用旧版本？ 提醒一下，不用英语会让很多人看不懂...... 下次用英语吧。 请下次使用英语。 要不我来翻译？ 可以让我翻译一下吗？ 随便啊，我英语水平不行啊，会读会说不会写，属于文盲类型。游戏里的蒸汽发电和我这个蒸汽发电还是有区别的，游戏里现有的蒸汽发电是需要建立在压力室里的，而我这里的蒸汽发电机可以直接连接蒸汽管道 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1111126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, np5jx61 said: 游戏里的蒸汽发电和我这个蒸汽发电还是有区别的，游戏里现有的蒸汽发电是需要建立在压力室里的，而我这里的蒸汽发电机可以直接连接蒸汽管道 原来是这样？？？ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1111128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
np5jx61 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 2018/11/6 at PM9点32分, ArunPrasath said: 我怀疑ONI会成为一款多人游戏。这场比赛现在非常迟钝。我正在运行一个非常好的系统，当地图被50％探索时，我降到了10fps。这是一场噩梦。 现在把所有地图都开了，玩了300多天，我的FPS比较稳定，R5系列的CPU。GTX970的显卡 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1111831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG pro Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 That is so funny to watch 这是很有趣的观看 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1113363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Translation Part II! Ok, after asking @np5jx61 I figure out I have misunderstood something about his post. His reply: On Wed Nov 07 2018 at 8:47 PM, np5jx61 said: (Translated and partly rephrased) My steam engine is different from that in the game. The one in the game need to built in a airtight room, but my idea allows steam input from ventillation systems. Sorry dudes /(•ω•) Here comes PART II, geothermal power part. (P.S. some are rephrased and rearranged, but I’ll keep what’s its meaning.) ②Geothermal Power Geothermal power has a great advantage of its sustainability. 1. Heat Pipe A long heat pipe, which has a dimension of 15h×1w, this is built with Abyssalite. Its ability to withstand 3000°C extreme temperature allows it to dip into magma. Collects heat from magma without heat loss. 2. Boiler Built with Abyssalite. Dimension 4h×8w. Must be built on top of a heat pipe. Supplying water from pipelines will release super-hot steam into the atmosphere. As it uses heat from magma, it requires no electricity. It can be use for creating an airtight condition for the (current) steam engine. 3. Steam Engine It must be supplied with super-hot steam (from ventillation system) to operate. Generates power and pure water at 15°C. Power output efficiency is affected by temperature of steam inputed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1113889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowdesign Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 So essentially what you do with heat shift plates as heat pipe and water as boiler when you dig to lava and prepare the steam engine? However a Steam Engine that is supplied with steam from a pipe makes some sense... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1114034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Rainbowdesign said: So essentially what you do with heat shift plates as heat pipe and water as boiler when you dig to lava and prepare the steam engine? However a Steam Engine that is supplied with steam from a pipe makes some sense... Yeah, some functions has been repeated. And actually we can use metal blocks to form a boiler instead of buildings. BTW I really hate the airtight requirement of steam engines. +1 to the steam engine idea Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1114422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowdesign Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 27 minutes ago, Madbro said: airtight requirement What you mean? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1114437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Rainbowdesign said: What you mean? I mean the pressure requirement. I mean pressure gradient. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1114568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowdesign Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Madbro said: I mean the pressure requirement. I mean pressure gradient. Ah well. Try the mini turbine from my mod after the next update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/98059-%E4%BC%A0%E9%80%81%E6%8A%80%E6%9C%AF%E3%80%81%E5%9C%B0%E7%83%AD%E5%8F%91%E7%94%B5%E3%80%81/#findComment-1114678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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