Glassyfo Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Anyone know if the steam from the hydrogen engine is hot enough to melt iron doors? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Someone said it`s 2000oC so might be enough to melt iron. That`s closest to the engine. Farther away should be lower. But better build doors out of wolframite/tungsten to be sure. Same for automation and wires. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1108672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 5:12 PM, Sasza22 said: Someone said it`s 2000oC so might be enough to melt iron. That`s closest to the engine. Farther away should be lower. But better build doors out of wolframite/tungsten to be sure. Same for automation and wires. the max temps are far beyond that, i had my hydrogen rocket melt away bunker tiles. The hydrogen rocket needs a real rocket silo, that has integrated cooling and all. No need to go overboard like i did, but you get the point i bet: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: the max temps are far beyond that, i had my hydrogen rocket melt away bunker tiles. The hydrogen rocket needs a real rocket silo, that has integrated cooling and all. No need to go overboard like i did, but you get the point i bet: Does the double layer prevent the heat from getting through? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What double layer ? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 55 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: What double layer ? Bunker tiles under the rocket. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 oh no.. the heat ray is 9 tiles long, and will penetrate everything, including natural abys. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, SkunkMaster said: oh no.. the heat ray is 9 tiles long, and will penetrate everything, including natural abys. How did you get that megalomanic silo built? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Carnis said: How did you get that megalomanic silo built? i'm at cycle 2500+ also i have both a copper and iron cano, and my rocket is farming metal. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1109606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 21 hours ago, SkunkMaster said: i'm at cycle 2500+ also i have both a copper and iron cano, and my rocket is farming metal. Why do you have 3 steam engines stacked on top of each other? And aren't they voiding steam by not having an open tile above them? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1110508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 cause 3 steamengines = 6kw. and nope, all the steam is fine like this, no deletion occurs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1110517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 45 minutes ago, SkunkMaster said: cause 3 steamengines = 6kw. and nope, all the steam is fine like this, no deletion occurs. Yea, but the steam that comes out of the top of one engine is cold and won't run the next one... also how the hell are you maintaining the pressure differential? The steam coming out of the top should tend to drift down and equalize the pressure with the incoming steam from the bottom. Ok, wait.. I think I see... the steam actually cant go down through the intake tiles, and you have walls up the side, so it can only flow up to the next turbine. Somehow in that single tile gap between the turbines though, it has to get heated back up hot enough for the next turbine. How do you manage to dump that much heat into it that quickly? Just having all of the metal tiles hold and transfer plenty of heat and diamond tempshift plates? Why do you use glass everywhere? It looks like you have a coolant loop to condense steam from the vent but why is half of it encased in glass? It looks like it is also condensing the steam from the turbines, but why the glass with the doors and sensor and 4 tempshift plates over there? And why does your hot pipe go through glass instead of just a larger room full of petrol that the aquatuners are sitting in? Isn't glass an insulator? Finally, what the heck are you cooling with all of that to pump that much heat into the turbines? My turbine only runs sometimes and has no trouble keeping my base cool and condensing a steam vent, and that includes eating all of the heat from making steel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1110540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Simple, the steam that goes in the bottom is hot enough to retain enough heat for all turbines. a turbine removes about 25 degrees C from steam passing through, so if the steam is like 400 degrees it can go through 5 steam turbines before running out of heat for another one. I use a similar setup with my thermal annihilator I posted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1110589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, suicide commando said: Simple, the steam that goes in the bottom is hot enough to retain enough heat for all turbines. a turbine removes about 25 degrees C from steam passing through, so if the steam is like 400 degrees it can go through 5 steam turbines before running out of heat for another one. I use a similar setup with my thermal annihilator I posted. What? No. The output steam has a fixed temperature, which is why you can use the hot chlorine trick to force the turbine to run and eat cold steam, and emit steam that is hotter than what went in. At least, that's what everyone on the forums has said.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1110593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 The output steam is 150c, But the turbines suffer very much from heat backdraft, so even though the 2kg/s come out at 150c, they heat up to working temps because of mass around it. Also i have a running loop helping maintain even temps Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1110795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Bump... why all the glass tiles? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1111913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Because they can be made with diamond, which transfers heat very very well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1112007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, KittenIsAGeek said: Because they can be made with diamond, which transfers heat very very well. Oh! Wow... didn't even think of that... diamond windows... wow. And so you are using it to kind of glue together the cooling from the two separate aquatuner loops into one big cold area? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97953-hydrogen-engine-temps/#findComment-1112216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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