Wehmut Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We need achievements. This is why: when I am reading through player posts in forum or steam or watch streams on twitch they often use phrases like "just do" or "that is easy" and often they post some sort of image showing a HUGE setup of something offering a solution for a problem or showing off a huge base with thousands of cargo containers and so on. But this is always the game in god mode. Those players often really think, they are pro players having completly mastered this game, and make us other "normal" players feel like we have no clue from this game. So, what we need are achievements and of course, they only should be rewarded in survival game mode. I know, the devs might want to add them after the full release but I would advise them to implement it now because it really gets annoying. I also have the feeling the rest of the world doesnt know how hard it is to keep a base up and running for 200 cycles in survival mode. So it would be nice reward. Besides that, it also is very motivating to go for the achievements. Thx. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We could brainstorm some achievements that could be added in the future. Like: Survive 100 cycles. Grow all types of plants. Print all the dupe types. Reach space. Complete all research in the tech tree. Analyze all planets on the starmap. Liquify hydrogen. There`s a ton of options and i`m sure they will add a lot of steam achivements once the game is released. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Sasza22 said: Survive 100 cycles. Grow all types of plants. Print all the dupe types. Reach space. Complete all research in the tech tree. Analyze all planets on the starmap. Liquify hydrogen. 1. Success Colonizer 2. Botanist 3. The Great Duplicant Company 4. Welcome to the galaxy 5. Mad Scientist 6. Astronomy Specialist 7. Cold-ish Freeze Just giving them interesting names (•ω•). @Sasza22 On the other hand I also have some more ideas: 1. Brainshock! Use the Neural Vacillator once. 2. ‘Break’through Reach the surface biome. 3. Newbie Scientist Research your first tech. 4. Food Bank Store 50000KCal food in your base. 5. Let the Black Gold Flow! Tap a oil reservoir with oil well. 6. Power Tycoon Generate 10000W electricity at any given time. 7. Butcher Kill 10 critters. 8. Employment Employ your first duplicant with a occupation. 9. Hell-o to the Hell! Have your first dead duplicant (Are you mad?) 10. The truth Reach Earth. 11. What’s New? Import an unknown species from any space mission. 12. Burn Baby Burn! Set fire on something and start a disaster. 13. Industrial Revolution Build a Molecular Forge. 14. Shiny! Get any refined metal. 15. Renaissance Finish 30 paintings or sculptures. 16. Dumb Ways to Suicide - Duplicant Edition Achieve 5 ways of death. (That’s even mad) 17. Settle Down Survive 50 Cycles. 18. Hardcore Buster Finish a game with apocalypse difficulty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 19.Identical Twins Print two identical duplicants. 20. Town Having 20 duplicants alive at any givem time. 21. City Having 40 duplicants alive at any given time. 22. Pirates! Survive any Pirates attack. 23. Unfriendly visitor Take down one Intruder Saucer. 24. Last Stand Survive 20 Pirate attacks. 25. Undestructable Fortess Survive a Dreadnought attack. 26. Zoologist Ranch all species of critters. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehmut Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yeah! Cool! I dont see why those achievements are not already implemented In my imagination it isnt that much work^^. These achievements could be early access achievements and get deleted at full release or replaced by the real (maybe a balanced) ones - just in case the devs dont want to be comitted to them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Madbro said: 22. Pirates! Survive any Pirates attack. 23. Unfriendly visitor Take down one Intruder Saucer. 24. Last Stand Survive 20 Pirate attacks. 25. Undestructable Fortess Survive a Dreadnought attack. Only if they implement pirates . 4 hours ago, Wehmut said: I dont see why those achievements are not already implemented I don`t know how achievements work for early access on steam. I imagine they don`t want to spoil the lore before the full release through achievements. Also the game is still a bit unstable so some achivements might be exploitable. I think it`s wise to wait for full release. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I like the idea of achievements and maybe ingame rewards, buildable exclusive statues/paintings/monuments which are rewarded to players which have completed certain goals in a normal game. Ohhhhhh pirates, it would be so great to have (Space?)Pirates in the game ! I came to know some great Shantie`s with AC:Black Flag. Still has the best storm waves and ship battles IMHO Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Continued ideas about achivements: 27. Carbon Monoxide Memes (easter egg) Find Carbon Monoxide Memes comic book buried and read it... 28. The Invincible Stone Get neutronium. 29. Industrialist Manufacture 50T of steel. 30. Geologist Investigate 3 geysers. 31. Geology Starter Complete investigation of any geyser. 32. Steel Dome Construct 100 Bunker Tiles and 5 Bunker Doors. 33. Steampunk Having 3 Steam Turbines spinning at any given time. 34. Where’s my crowbar? Open 10 Gravitas crates. 35. YouNoob Have all your duplicants dead. 36. Jetsuit Madness Manufacture 10 Jetsuits. 37. What’s that smell? (easter egg) When you starts with 3 farting dupes... 38. Big Farm Plant 50 crops. 39. Drunk and Happy Build a brewery. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 100. The Babba Grail Having more than 100 dupes on the map 101. Tesla City Running a circuit with 20KW load 102. Mordor The 100th death of a dupe 103. Mushrooms Revenge Mining the last tile of Slime 104. The Bernstein Museum Having 20 Paintings and 20 Sculptures 105. Spy VS Spy A dupe fell a distance of 100 tiles 106. Le Baron 10 tons of Petroleum in the inventory 107. Hot Lava A dupe came in contact with Lava 108. Debugnator Having all tiles excavated 109. The Plague Having 20 med beds 110. You gotta fight for your right to party 10 dupes dancing at the same moment 111. I lost the keys A dupe was in a room for 5 cycles 112. Ghost `n Goblins Having 30 gravestones 113. Nightmare A dupes workshift was 24 hours for 7 cycles 114. Mono Culture A Dupe had only one type of food for 20 cycles 115. Golden Eye Having 5 dupes suffer from sunburnt at the same moment 116. Fort Knox Having 20 tons of gold in a compactor 117. Beethoven Playing the game for 100 cycles with deactivated music 118. Quakery Having 5 sick dupes in a bed for 10 cycles 119. Deaf Jam A dupe experience snoring every cycle for 20 cycles 120. El Ultimato Completed 100 achievements 121. Who are you people ? Having 5 dupes with the same name 122. Kebap Tycoon 1 million calories in reserve 123. The Grand Babba Having 250 dupes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 124. My Butt is On FIRE! Get one duplicant burnt by thruster flame 125. Factory Construct 50 Refinery type buildings. 126. Grand Tube Network Build 15 Transit Tube Access. 127. I’m ‘SICK’ OF THIS! Get 10 duplicant sick. 128. Cool-ish Art Finish 10 ice blocks. 129. Rocket Bros. Co. Build your second rocket and launch it. 130. Urgent Catch-up Finish the game within 150 cycles. 131. Fire Drill Set 10 fires. 132. Tastes like dirt... Wait, it’s dirt! Feed your dupes with mush bars only for 20 cycles. 133. Sleet Madness Have 500 Sleet Grains in your inventory. 134. Oxygen Not Included Drain all oxygens. 135. Crude Startoff Research no tech within the early 20 cycles. 21 minutes ago, Madbro said: 134. Oxygen Not Included Drain all oxygens. This would be the hardest one Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Makes me think. Once upon a time we worked on a game where the only good thing about it - Where the achievements. As a luxury function it would be great if a list overview of game achievements can be looked up by players, in the main menu as example. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukiya Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 What about... Scienctific "Breakthrough": have one of your current scienctist breach the surface. For science! God damnit.: deconstruct Anti-Enthophy Thermo Nulllifier. Meteor Incoming!: Have meteor detector and detect incoming meteor shower. Free day!: have all dupe engage in downtime for a cycle 3 ways from point A to point B: Have ladder, fire pole and working transit tube next to each other. Solar Empire: Have 3(or more, idk) Solar Panal working at full power at the same time. We haven't even done that yet: have some material reach absolute zero. We can shower even if it's hot!: Have water over 50*C pump into shower. Have all critter: Found all critter. Each have uniqueness: Found or bred all critter morph. Just a couple is fine: reach 200 cycle with only 20 dupe or less (my achievement at least) No heaven or hell here: have dupe reach bottom and top of the map. (Probably too hard for survival?) Room Sweet Room: have bedroom for all dupe. I'm not Benjamin Frankin: Harness new power for electricity (if there is one) No need to PANIC!: use red alert No! Bad dupe!: have dupe pee themselves. No stress like, at ALL.: Keep stress of dupe higher than 50 but no stress response for a cycle. Calm down: one dupe reach breaking point (stress 100) then come back to 0 this is all I can think about... for the time being... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Holiday Approved Give your duplicant a full day break. BBQ House Cook a total of 20000Kcal BBQs and have them in your inventory. Muckroot Uproot Have all your muckroot uprooted and destroyed or eaten. And This Totally ‘NUTZ’ Grow 10 pincha peppernuts. First Man Have one Astronaut Cement Bloopers Get your duplicant stuck inside the cement Pharmacy Manufacture 20 pills Klei Animations Co. Get all duplicant characters from Klei’s animated short videos! Arcade Awesomeness Build 5 Arcade Cabinet in a recreation room. Aquarium Breed 20 Tropical Pacus. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Oxygen Fab Co. Produce 15000 Kg Oxygen in a cycle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukiya Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 And so... Space race build and launch rocket before 300 cycles. Algae is for terrarium use up 80% of natural found algae from algae terrarium alone (can be multiple terraria). Not so efficient use Rock crusher to make 10000 kg of refined metal. Smelly Smelt pump polluted water to metal refinery. Isn't that illogic? pump pollute water with higher than 75*C to fertilizer synthesizer. Isn't space suppose to be COOL? (pun definitely intended) have dupe catch heatstroke in space. Isn't a training is require? appoint astronaut who haven't on been Space Cadet Centrifuge once. No need for refrigerator. Pass 200 cycles without any refrigerator. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG pro Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Let it dab Make one of your dupes dab Dan them all Make all your dupes dab at least once Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1106942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbro Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Master of Masters Have a duplicant mastered all occupations. Planet Domination Have no critters on the asteroid at any given time. Eggs aren’t included. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I hate to throw a wet blanket on the party, but historically Klei doesn't do achievements. In fact, they've vehemently fought against having them. In Don't Starve, they don't have any in the steam version, nor on the xbox version, but on the playstation version, they were required to have at least one achievement by Sony. They came up with this: http://dontstarve.wikia.com/wiki/Accomploshrine It's basically a big F U to Sony and the player, by making them use a limited resource to craft a shrine, and turn a crank 25 times, after which you will receive... nothing. From the wiki: "This item was added begrudgingly as a jab at the pointlessness of achievements." Eventually Klei did cave in and introduced some achievements on consoles, but never steam. I wouldn't expect them to ever have them for ONI. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yeah...Achievements are often a publisher and/or console manufacturer requirement to release a game on certain console platforms. I never thought much of them, but I do realize that some players like them and its fun to tune in here about it. ONI is a really good game, if there would ever be some - I think I would enjoy completing them. Thanks for the link, its interesting - I love the name "Accomploshrine" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, crypticorb said: I wouldn't expect them to ever have them for ONI. Yoo bad. Achievements are useful for the developers in certain cases. Like in hard games you can see what percentage of players reached a certain point that awards an achievement. Like how many players beat the final boss or something. In ONI achievements would tell them what percentage of the players reached rocket tech. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehmut Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yeah, would be interesting to know what their motivation is to not have achievements. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Sasza22 said: Yoo bad. Achievements are useful for the developers in certain cases. Like in hard games you can see what percentage of players reached a certain point that awards an achievement. Like how many players beat the final boss or something. In ONI achievements would tell them what percentage of the players reached rocket tech. I fully agree with this idea of achievements being a metric of success in a game, it's why I 100% certain games like Dark Souls, Half-Life 2, or Portal. Not everyone has the skill or persistence to surmount that last challenge, or outlast incredible odds against you. Klei doesn't seem to agree in all cases though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irOninfernO Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 well if you look at it, don't starve don't have achievements and i wouldn't expect oni to have them either. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukiya Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Yes, normally Klei won't implement achievement. But as Sasza22 said, it does have it own purposes, telling them how many people able to achieve some achievement so they can adjust their difficulty. You wouldn't want a game that too hard that people were throwing the towel. And at the same time, it shouldn't be too easy that people get bore of it. Achievement also give people a sense of accomplishment, even if it eventually pointless (like that accomploshine... still somewhat salty about that...). So, if they would add an achievement, that's great. But if they don't, it's their choice. Doesn't matter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1107903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageLeague Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 They are devs. If they want to see some data of how many people did something they can just call a function and change some variable on some server when something is achieved. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97760-achievements/#findComment-1108446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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