babba Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 On the Steam Engine: Yesterday I messed around with steam turbines and lava again in debug. If it would be possible to pump 300 - 500 celsius fluid through pipes underneath + sprinkling water underneath, then it would be doable to have it running without knowing of exploit builds or being a casual noob. So the long asked for better heat pump material to be able to pump hot fluids... My screenshot below is really just about having 300 celsius underneath ( and higher pressure below the steam engines ) - I hope Klei gives us better material to build hot heat pumps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96120-big-change-for-abyssalite/page/2/#findComment-1091985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejams Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Saturnus said: There's certainly also a lot to be said about currently mining abyssalite requires a 2nd tier Miner. Why require a higher tier job to mine something that is completely worthless until the very late game?... Exploration and expansion are also parts of the game which which IMO justify the need to progress to 2nd tier miner for Abyssalite. TBH I wouldn't mind an even higher tier (initially) useless material gating some even more valuable stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96120-big-change-for-abyssalite/page/2/#findComment-1092003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreyKl Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Saturnus said: There's certainly also a lot to be said about currently mining abyssalite requires a 2nd tier Miner. Why require a higher tier job to mine something that is completely worthless until the very late game? May be to make sure new players aren't rushing it past abysalite? Personally I find it fair to require tier 2 miner to be able to breach biome walls. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96120-big-change-for-abyssalite/page/2/#findComment-1092030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, AndreyKl said: May be to make sure new players aren't rushing it past abysalite? Personally I find it fair to require tier 2 miner to be able to breach biome walls. Shouldn't that imply that all biome had abyssalite around them then? Especially those around the starting biome which do not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96120-big-change-for-abyssalite/page/2/#findComment-1092035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreyKl Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Shouldn't that imply that all biome had abyssalite around them then? Especially those around the starting biome which do not. Perhaps... Either way abyssalite is used only for biome walls and is a limiting low-to-mid game factor, so tier 2 miner is worse the effort and rather 'rewarding' acquisition. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96120-big-change-for-abyssalite/page/2/#findComment-1092039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, AndreyKl said: Perhaps... Either way abyssalite is used only for biome walls and is a limiting low-to-mid game factor, so tier 2 miner is worse the effort and rather 'rewarding' acquisition. The starting biome has granite and obsydian walls meaning you need an apprentice miner to dig thorugh. It also means you need to have a jobs board for it so you cna`t just rush to other biomes at the start of the game. Abyssalite walls are around ice biomes to keep them cold. Usually getting to an ice biome is pretty rewarding earlygame as you can get some wheezeworts for free cooling so i think it`s fair for it to require a miner. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96120-big-change-for-abyssalite/page/2/#findComment-1092043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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