Sasza22 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Hydrofan is somewhere on the bottom of the chest of things you want to build. It doesn`t really provide too much cooling, requires dupe operation and uses water on top of that. The water goes nowhere and the cooling it provides doesn`t make much sense either. So my idea is: Let it use ice. What`s the difference? It would cool the area and use the heat to melt the ice. Once melted it would leave a water bottle equal mass of the melted ice. It could actually continue cooling until the water inside isn`t the same temperature as the air around it. Then it would require more ice to be delivered. (wouldn`t work in sub 0oC enviroments) It would not only serve a cooling purpose but would also be a good way to melt some ice easily as we all know melting tonnes of ice in storage takes a long time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 You can already do this thing with ice statues. Or storage compactors including ice. Apart from the bottling of course. What would be the benefit of this? Ice is argueably even harder to get than water, so why make an already low desireable device even less desireable by increasing its requirements? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGMZero Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 i will talk about JUST ME, currently if i find an early small ice biome with 1 or 2 wheezworts and i want to cool a hot area/building with out moving it to the tiny ice biome, i collect ice/snow and store it in a storage compactor that act as a temp wheezwort. even better, i've been cooling my rushed plastic compressor this way. what i am trying to say is ... not only i don't use hydrofan. but IF i do get to find ice biome with or with out wheezworts. then i really will NOT use the hydrofan. they need to make that thing way more convenient. for a person who live in a hot country. we do use air conditioners outdoors that are literally just a fan that pass air through cooler water and the results are fantastic, yes that water will vaporize over time, but the machine does it job and its not water hungry, you could fill it once a day if the thing is running 24/7. unlike ONI, and it use power to just keep the fan spinning nothing else. Implement the Ice idea, give it an option to consume the water, or bottle it for more ice. and let us hook it to the power grid. it shouldn't give much heat energy. either ways players will always use wheezworts when available, and they seem to be in infinite number at the next update. Edit: I hate to say this since i depend on wheezworts a lot, but may be they finally need a drawback to them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, blash365 said: What would be the benefit of this? It would be more effective than ice satues and storage compactors. It would allow you to cool the area really fast as well as melt the stored ice faster than waiting for the statue to melt. I think one operation cycle from a dupe should melt the ice equalizing temperature between the fan and the enviroment. It shouldn`t take too much ice just so the temperature doesn`t drop too fast. I just want the thing to not waste resources. It will also give some kind of use to dug up ice outside making statues. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Currently it is cooling at the cost of water. You want it to change to a time accelerated temperature exchanger. You are basically taking the only thing that made it worth building (the cooling!) away. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What if it's too hot for wheezeworts, like a room with a trapped wheezewort cooling a steam vent or plastic press? And, also, at the cost of petroleum, glass, oxygen, and tenured scientists/exosuit engineers, all that, topped with steel, make rocketing off to space undesirable unless steel production is high and you have dupes to spare. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons100 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I like this idea as it doesn't neccessarily remove water for a miniscule amount of heat. Also gives a neat reason for making Ice in the long run. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpalerWrG Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I have long believed this, the device is useless if it deletes water, melting water is what makes sense. Ice delivered manually, and a output pipe port for the melted water. No messy water running everywhere as would with a sculpture. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Maybe there would actually be some nice automation/conveyor setups if we could get rid of the manual operation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGMZero Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, blash365 said: Maybe there would actually be some nice automation/conveyor setups if we could get rid of the manual operation. +1 as i said i never use them, but i understood from this thread that people using them to turn gas into liquid which is something wheezwort can't do by it own. putting a dupe to manually operate a freezer room for a long period of time is stressful with out exosuits . Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94834-hydrofan-should-use-ice/#findComment-1077620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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