martosss Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I built a med bay, since 1 of my dupes got hypothermia from 20° water(come on, some people swim in 4°, our dupes are tropical!). Anyways, I also included the required Outhouse for those poor sick chaps. However, once they(actually it, it was only 1) were healed, that Outhouse seems to be reserved for the med bay and dupes are reluctant to use it. Notice that I even built another one below it, just because they don't like the med-bay-reserved one. So have I stumbled on a bug, or is this the intended behavior - outhouse in med bay is unusable unless dupes are sick? Notice that I have no way to make it public/unassign it from medbay, apart from probably deconstructing doors/tiles to break the medbay(which I shouldn't be doing). I just tried saving/loading ... the outhouse shows the same message, and here's what I get from selecting a dupe and hovering over the Outhouse: Not assigned to dupe X... well I can't assign it, even if I want to! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I always thought medbay toilets were only for ill dupes. I took the habit to deconstruct the dinning table inside so that the medbay isn't one at time no one is sick, and toilet could be publically used. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I find it annoying that random dupes keep using the med bay toilets, this can prove problematic when a sick dupe needs the toilet and it's already occupied by a random, so the dupe just pee's all over the med bay because they can't reach the normal toilet. It's also unhelpful early game when they are just outhouses, as they get unnecessarily full from random dupe use. The toilets in the med bay should be for sick patients only. I think that the mess tables might have a similar issue, but this isn't so critical. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Craigjw said: I find it annoying that random dupes keep using the med bay toilets, this can prove problematic when a sick dupe needs the toilet and it's already occupied by a random, so the dupe just pee's all over the med bay because they can't reach the normal toilet. It's also unhelpful early game when they are just outhouses, as they get unnecessarily full from random dupe use. The toilets in the med bay should be for sick patients only. I think that the mess tables might have a similar issue, but this isn't so critical. I completely agree, but when there are no sick dupes at all, those outhouses/toilets should be convertible to public use? Deconstructing the mess hall table is like shooting pigeons with a bazooka - you can do it, but that's not generally the correct approach. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 /me do not like pigeons. At all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Argelle said: /me do not like pigeons. At all. Look at him, he's whistling so loud that he ran out of air! And now he's stressed because he heard you load that bazooka! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Argelle said: /me do not like pigeons. At all. In all seriousness, I don't like pigeons either, I'm deconstructing that mess hall table, thanks for the suggestion! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I don't really understand the need there... I know it's a toilet that is rarely used but well... It's not like it's an expensive building. I wondered once if the lavatory would be used by non sick dupes. They did not and I was like "Oh well, they're maybe full of germs and my dupes don't want to sit on that !". Think of it as if you were in a hospital, you don't poop in another patient's toilet ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I disable the toilet and build the mess table in the air to stop its use. The newest build means you need that DUP to eat and go potty in a better morale environment. The sneezes have zero impact on other dups in normal o2 base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, Christophlette said: I don't really understand the need there... I know it's a toilet that is rarely used but well... It's not like it's an expensive building. I wondered once if the lavatory would be used by non sick dupes. They did not and I was like "Oh well, they're maybe full of germs and my dupes don't want to sit on that !". Think of it as if you were in a hospital, you don't poop in another patient's toilet ^^ In our hospitals there are 3 toilets for the whole floor, I'm not sure which country you're coming from The need is because toilets take space - having a full bathroom is a whole floor - instead of that bottom floor with the 2 toilets I could have build a ranch ... now I have to dig more, insulate build infrastructure(ladders, poles, morale)... Having a small base means less traveling => more works gets done. I'm also testing the ladder-fire pole idea for optimal movement, it works pretty well for now The statues are a bit exploity, but ... if it's not forbidden, then it's allowed! And the resulting decor level - TOO DAMN HIGH. Who needs massage tables - my dupes have x2-x3 morale over the requirements. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, martosss said: In our hospitals there are 3 toilets for the whole floor, I'm not sure which country you're coming from I'm just dazed at the moment I live in France and hospitals have a toilet and a shower for every room. And at least two toilets (one men, one women) for visitors. Maybe I'm too used to luxury... >_> And looking at your base we don't have the same expectations ! I have a very large base compared to you it's insane. I'm triggered by only looking at your left outhouse. You need to jum down 2 meters to pee. And you need to go through the toilets to go make some refined metal. I couldn't play like you ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Christophlette said: I'm just dazed at the moment I live in France and hospitals have a toilet and a shower for every room. And at least two toilets (one men, one women) for visitors. Maybe I'm too used to luxury... >_> And looking at your base we don't have the same expectations ! I have a very large base compared to you it's insane. I'm triggered by only looking at your left outhouse. You need to jum down 2 meters to pee. And you need to go through the toilets to go make some refined metal. I couldn't play like you ^^ Who cares if the toilet is jammed down, as long as it's a latrine and you pee in 40+ decor having a statue next to you and a shine bug on the other side! And of course, it depends on the hospital, private hospitals and rooms for serious patients do have 1 toilet/2-3 people, but we're in space, they should go and pee where the bottle emptier is, not have their own separate toilet! BTW I just made a 2nd rock crusher to the left of the left water pump - this one is giving me bad decor diagonally to the bedrooms and will be demolished. So now dupes don't have to go through the toilet, only through the farms Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94357-outhouse-reserved-for-med-bay/#findComment-1072441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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