martosss Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Any idea why this is not counted as a room? I actually had a door above the 3rd farm tile in the bottom left and it was a room.... and I tried removing it, since the room was still big enough, but now it's not counted as a room at all? Room size should be 91 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Room requires a door, yours is placed in a way that game might struggle recognizing it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 rooms should no longer require a door because transit tubes can be used to enter and exit "sealed" rooms. File a bug report please. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOOK14 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think it IS because the game doesn't recognize the tops and bottoms of doors as boundaries for rooms. I also think you should submit a bug report. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kabrute said: rooms should no longer require a door Read the tooltip in @martosss screenshot again. Unless you have some dev insight you want to share, it's not a bug. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 about a month back there was a bug report because someone used sealed rooms, no doors, transit tube entry/exit. Search doesn't dig through bug reports. Tooltips can be outdated........ if you don't believe me mouse over critters temperature. The space is small enough to be a room and it is indeed enclosed on all sides so it should be a room, its a bug, file a bug report please. @Grimgaw I don't need dev insight to know that bug reports generate dev insight. Inconsistent or unexpected results should be repaired. Unknowns should be brought to light. Reports are how this is achieved. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 And there you have it - now it's a room! Notice that it's 85 tiles, so even if I have no door it should be 91 - a valid room. Above it didn't even say that the area is enclosed(e.g. a room of size 110). It might be 1 of those vacuum bugs where the game thinks a tile is vacuum. I had this earlier and destroyed the door, now I'll try filling 1 of the corners on the left, I guess the game doesn't like corners. Still no room ... next step would be to deconstruct the farm tiles? Maybe one of the farm tiles is an issue. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 for giggles and grins try turning this door sideways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 But the door worked when I had a door on the left! ... hm ... it worked ... I even rebuilt the farm tile. Now the question is why did the game recognize the room when I had the door on the left earlier? I'll also try to move the door up/down and see where it stops recognizing it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, TOOK14 said: I think it IS because the game doesn't recognize the tops and bottoms of doors as boundaries for rooms. I also think you should submit a bug report. the upper room had the side of the door in it, the lower room had no sides of doors in it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, martosss said: 3 minutes ago, Kabrute said: the upper room had the side of the door in it, the lower room had no sides of doors in it. 1 picture is worth 1000 words same room, counts, I have a door on the left ... go figure ... the top right door didn't change ! Here's what I did next .. start moving the door up ... doesn't work. Should be a valid Greenhouse of size 92. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 you have a new door with its side making the room a room, notice the little space on the other side is classed as a room also though not a greenhouse. Sides of doors make rooms, not bottoms, I posted a bug report. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ah, I see, all clear So if I move the door a few tiles down so that the left side is in the room it should fix my problem. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 yes because the other space already has a door side in it. from a different door Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martosss Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ah, I just noticed this - it turns out I had many other unrecognized "rooms" of size 1: Note the space between the "floors", enclosed by 2 doors. So the top of the door also doesn't count as "room material". Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Kabrute said: rooms should no longer require a door because transit tubes can be used to enter and exit "sealed" rooms. File a bug report please. They still don't recognise it as a room my ranches that use tubes have a sealed door cuz of this. The devs did say it was an error though Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1065387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vuelhering Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 11:41 AM, Grimgaw said: Read the tooltip in @martosss screenshot again. Unless you have some dev insight you want to share, it's not a bug. Are you giving us dev insight? Or are you giving us English lessons? Because if you're not a dev and claiming this is not a bug based on the tooltip, then it requires multiple doors. And since I have a counter-example that rooms requires "doors" instead of "a door", there's either a bug in the tooltip, or a bug in the room designator. And that picture is a perfect example of the bug. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1066222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weyred Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 This is fixed in 278302: Rooms no longer require a door to be a room. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/93640-room-problems/#findComment-1066252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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