Coolthulhu Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Gulp fish sometimes consume pwater and emit regular water, but that doesn't seem reliable. Is this a bug or do they need something more to actually filter water? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 What temperature is the polluted water? Only get a 5 degree range that the gulp fish likes that makes liquid water on the surface of the polluted water. The rest of the time it's making ice for some dupe/sweeper to steal. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, Risu said: What temperature is the polluted water? Started at -20C, warmed it up gradually to 9C. Didn't see it activate for even a single tick. Out of all my 3 gulp fish spawns (out of all ~20 pacu egg spawns I've seen, 3 were 2% chance gulp fish spawns), the 2 "wild" ones filtered as expected, then died to overheating. The one fish I contained in a nice cool tank refused to filter, though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said: The one fish I contained in a nice cool tank refused to filter, though. What did its inventory say? Should contain all the water its working with. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, Risu said: What did its inventory say? Should contain all the water its working with. Didn't show anything. Do I need to tame it to see the inventory? It explicitly said 0 g/s of water consumed and produced, though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Typical gulp fish inventory. It releases water after it exceeds 2000 g. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Risu said: Typical gulp fish inventory. It releases water after it exceeds 2000 g. Mine doesn't have it. And doesn't seem to be gulping any water into the inventory. Maybe a game reload will help though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 How do you guys keep the fish happy ? - mine are always glum once tamed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, SkunkMaster said: How do you guys keep the fish happy ? After they get tame they can't get happy so the pool dies off. Need the feeder buff to grant happiness before they are viable. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Risu said: After they get tame they can't get happy so the pool dies off. Need the feeder buff to grant happiness before they are viable. thought so. darn it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arxeon Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: Started at -20C, warmed it up gradually to 9C. Didn't see it activate for even a single tick. Out of all my 3 gulp fish spawns (out of all ~20 pacu egg spawns I've seen, 3 were 2% chance gulp fish spawns), the 2 "wild" ones filtered as expected, then died to overheating. The one fish I contained in a nice cool tank refused to filter, though. For now you need to keep them wild in ph2o as close to the freeze point as you can get reliably without the ph2o turning to ice. Use sweepers to collect the frozen clean water and deliver it to your clean water tank/s Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 keeping them wild but still using the feeder works, if you omit dupes to enter the water. if the feeder is filled with algae, and you empty it by disabling the feeder content, the algae just drops down into the water - just keep dupes from picking it up. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, SchlauFuchs said: ..the algae just drops down into the water.. How do you get enough algae? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, Oozinator said: How do you get enough algae? you can fill the feeder with two thousand kg algae - if you drop that there should be enough for a lot of cycles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, SchlauFuchs said: you can fill the feeder with two thousand kg algae - if you drop that there should be enough for a lot of cycles. Sure Sir, but algae is not much on my map, how to get enough fresh algae? Some critters like to eat it now Was something changed, to reproduce algae easy? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 not to my knowledge - you will have to cease consuming algae for oxygen and use slime to convert algae for the feeders. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 A full feeder holds enough food for single Pacu for 100 cycles. Stop worrying about the algae. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arxeon Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Is there even a need to feed the fish in the current build? they don't die of starvation while they are wild and feeding them to tame them does more harm than good. Further more the Gulp fish variant (the useful one) doesn't even require algae. Here's my approach on using Gulp fish to purify Ph2o. The only Issue is that the whole sweeper/conveyor system in ONI is bugged out so I have the sweepers turned off. Also at the bottom of each tank i have a layer of crude oil to provide somewhere for the fish to reside should they manage to consume all the Ph2o before the geyser comes out of dormancy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 They spawn with enough calories to survive 18 days and they lay eggs after about 15 cycles, but they don't die as expected. They live to the ripe old age of 25 cycles. Going to regard this as a bug. Should be sustainable when wild with the bug fixed, but they are also a good source of meat. Might be worth taming them to accelerate egg production to get more fish to kill. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arxeon Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Risu said: Might be worth taming them to accelerate egg production to get more fish to kill. Currently taming them will give them a permanent gloomy buff preventing them from ever laying a egg. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Arxeon said: Currently taming them will give them a permanent gloomy buff preventing them from ever laying a egg. That bug has already been discussed. Need to determine how effective they can be after they are functioning correctly. They also need patched so they can be contained by mesh tiles. Right now there is no easy way to have rooms with shared water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90071-gulp-fish-not-working/#findComment-1028851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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