Parusoid Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 You can not set the refrigerator to fraction like 873 grams, yet produced foods comes with fractions. Many times my refrigerators are missing few grams for automatin to kick in (resulting in overproduced food). And there is no way of making it right. Dupes wont fill a refrigerator when its missing few grams. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plum Gate Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I noticed this as a problem with cooking as well, .. The automation port seems more like an empty notifier than a reliably full indicator...and could probably use logic like the smart battery and be more useful. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I wonder as well, how does this happen? My calories meter (Top left next to the immunity) shows me some strange fraction. 15.735682 meallice when I hover over it. Does it means there is pie in the fridge? Pun intended Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I hope this get's fixed soon so we can automate the grill. Until then I just keep a count on food production vs dupe population Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehPlayer14 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Or we perhaps need Smart Refrigerator just like batteries Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, TehPlayer14 said: Or we perhaps need Smart Refrigerator just like batteries these are smart refrigerators, the problem is they don't work due to weight fractions Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Neotuck said: these are smart refrigerators, the problem is they don't work due to weight fractions Im sure they meant smart as in smart battery, where you can set min and max value, instead yes or no value Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Parusoid said: Im sure they meant smart as in smart battery, where you can set min and max value, instead yes or no value ah that makes more sense, I agree that would be helpful Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I think the crux of the issue is the difference between a quantity of a food, which has a calorie density separate from it's mass, and the fact that Dupes eat exactly what they need. Dupes need, what, 2 Kcal per day? Well, that's more than a single loaf of Mealloaf, which is 1.6 Kcal. So they need to make up that extra 400 Kcal, which is 1/4 of a Mealloaf. So they will take 1.25 Mealloaves out of the Fridge to eat. This then leaves a fractional value in the Fridge. Meanwhile, food is reported as a mixture of Kcals and quantities of the item. When you mouse over the Kcal counter in the top left, it gives you a number of the food item with a ridiculous fractional value to like 6 decimal places. It should be reported one way or the other instead of both. And Dupes should only eat whole foods, not partial portions. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said: I think the crux of the issue is the difference between a quantity of a food, which has a calorie density separate from it's mass, and the fact that Dupes eat exactly what they need. Dupes need, what, 2 Kcal per day? Well, that's more than a single loaf of Mealloaf, which is 1.6 Kcal. So they need to make up that extra 400 Kcal, which is 1/4 of a Mealloaf. So they will take 1.25 Mealloaves out of the Fridge to eat. This then leaves a fractional value in the Fridge. Meanwhile, food is reported as a mixture of Kcals and quantities of the item. When you mouse over the Kcal counter in the top left, it gives you a number of the food item with a ridiculous fractional value to like 6 decimal places. It should be reported one way or the other instead of both. And Dupes should only eat whole foods, not partial portions. How do you explain the fractions? Look at the picture and the weight of the gristle berry. No one eats "part" of a gram of food yet sometimes they get cooked like that Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Neotuck said: sometimes they get cooked like that Yes, sometimes the food from musher or grill comes out to not be a whole portion Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Parusoid said: Yes, sometimes the food from musher or grill comes out to not be a whole portion I also noticed you get seeds with a ridiculous fraction on it's weight. One time I was counting seeds early game for farming and I ended up with 13.9989187 mealwood seeds and I was WTF? it was 14 but why the decimal point? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehPlayer14 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Neotuck said: I also noticed you get seeds with a ridiculous fraction on it's weight. One time I was counting seeds early game for farming and I ended up with 13.9989187 mealwood seeds and I was WTF? it was 14 but why the decimal point? Yeah its weird that Klei used float values for food or seeds Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanro50 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 A simple solution would just be to add two sliders instead of the one One for the total capacity of the fridge and another indicating when the logic signal goes active. Say the fridge is set to store 100 klcal and the logic signal goes active when the fridge is 90% full. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltyteabag Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 There's already a bug report on it, and Klei acknowledges it as a known issue (same issue as Smart Compactors): Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87723-fraction-weight-values-of-food-makes-it-hard-for-automated-refrigerator-to-work/#findComment-1005903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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