insulated tile vs non insulated tile

[Lutzkhie]

i read a post somewhere saying "use non insulated abysallite tile because its the same thing with the insulated tile" so i decided to experiment on it
 

the non insulated tile is made of abyssalite and the one next to it is also abyssalite but insulated, the other one is made of igneous rock
the non insulated abyssalite increased temp so fast even if its made of abyssalite so its not good for encasing your geyser to prevent it from heating up your base
while the insulated abyssalite tile remained at 20c after 3 cycles and the insulated igneous rock tile increased by 2.5c after 3cycles
so it clear that insulated tiles is better in this kind of job, what job you say? encasing geysers and high heat producing machinery to keep your base cool

 

this one is made of abyssalite but non insulated and it dropped its temperature so fast. with that in mind i got an idea here, we know that most abyssalite (and other minerals) have high temperature when you dug them. so the idea here is  you can bring them near this hydro thingy add some temp shift, cool them down then deconstruct before using in your base especially the abyssalite because their hard to cool down, plus with the use of conveyor belts delivering minerals is now quiet easy so the only problem remaining is how far this hydro thingy are

and now here is the difference when insulated is used

insulated tile made of abyssalite it maintained its temperature at 20c after a 3 cycles so insulated abyssalite is pretty tough

sooooo with that knowledge its up to you how to manage your minerals

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Basically, abyssalite will only transfer heat with other solids / liquids until they are within a 40K range of each other. An insulated tile of abyssalite will never transfer heat with another cell (needs a delta of at least 26010K to exchange with a gas, or 650250K for a solid/liquid

 

Normal abyssalite tile is good enough in most cases. But in some extreme temperatures, for example, magma, insulated abyssalite tile is better.

[Kabrute]

9 hours ago, R9MX4 said:

 

 

Normal abyssalite tile is good enough in most cases. But in some extreme temperatures, for example, magma, insulated abyssalite tile is better.

apparently something has changed in the more recent updates because based on the above I would no longer trust normal abysallite tiles around even my geyser :/

[chromiumboy]

A better test would be to have the tiles completely surround a 1 x 1 square and fill it with a set amount of liquid of gas at a specific temperature. As was already mentioned above, it's the thermal conductivity of the tile that's important for insulation, not its specific heat capacity

[Ichikai]

Seems to be working fine for me.

Regular abyssalite tiles, insulated abyssalite tiles, insulated sandstone tiles. Same initial temperatures for all, approx 1 cycle later:

Of course using tempshift plates or non abyssalite piping would void the warranty...

This is what happens when you add tempshift plates, remember their AoE is 3x3.

In this case the regular abyssalite tiles do gradually heat up very slowly, HOWEVER, they don't pass on that heat to the oxygen above. The insulated sandstone is FUBAR at this point lol.

[Kabrute]

same test but with liquids?  Just for the sake of full scale trials

[FutureJohny]

I have similar test running in my main save. It is running since automation update for hundreds of cycles.

I use debug to test small or long term stuff in the top and bottom neutronium layer.

I have 3 pairs of natural diamond blocks. One is around -200C other 600C. They are separated by one block of insulated granite (worst indulated tile), normal abysalite tile and neutronium (control group).

Unsuprisingly the neutronium pair did not change it's temperature. Abysalite shows no change either and granite shifted by 1 degree last time I checked. (not at my PC now)

Only change I see is the insulated granite itself changing from 20C to 100C (diamond average).

The result for me is, insulated tile is OK to build from normal minerals, as long as you are not handling magma or liquid oxygen.

[Oozinator]

1 hour ago, Ichikai said:

Seems to be working fine for me.

 

let it run 1000 cycles!

[Ichikai]

@Kabrute here's some liquid

@Oozinator here's 10 cycles later, after 1000 cycles the uninsulated abyssalite might have gone up a few tenths of a degree, maybe.

Normal abyssalite, insulated abyssalite, insulated sandstone, repeat.

Again, once you add tempshift plates directly to the tiles, or run non-abyssalite piping through them, the tile's temperature WILL go up or down depending on pipe temperature and temp shift temperature.

HOWEVER, if you do somehow transfer heat into abyssalite, it will still insulate the room regardless of its own temp, just as Burt is unaffected by his hot abyssalite prison.

[Roboson]

Poor Burt! Safe... but trapped forever, encased in natural abyssalite.

 

 

[Lutzkhie]

what have you done!

38 minutes ago, Ichikai said:

 

[Ichikai]

Relax guys, it's just a dream.

[SkunkMaster]

17 minutes ago, Ichikai said:

Relax guys, it's just a dream.

He should be sleeping with a minning hat "A minners worst nightmare: encased in abyssalite, unable to mine it"

[Roboson]

22 minutes ago, Ichikai said:

Relax guys, it's just a dream.

I always knew Burt was a strange strange dupe...