Tobruk Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Is it worth it to automate the NG power plant so that it only turns on if batteries are depleted or is it just a waste of refined metal? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulwind Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Personally I just let it run. I have the number of generators synched to the amount of gas that's available and I need the CO2 and polluted water it creates for other things. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Tobruk said: Is it worth it to automate the NG power plant so that it only turns on if batteries are depleted or is it just a waste of refined metal? Do you mean the NG's with tune ups? Yes that'd be a waste as you'd want to have the tuned up generators working flat out. But better yet, check if you can run your system without the tune ups. If you can, you should not do tune ups. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanro50 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tobruk said: Is it worth it to automate the NG power plant so that it only turns on if batteries are depleted or is it just a waste of refined metal? I would argue that it would depend on what your power draw looks like. If its an inconsistent draw then it might be worth conserving some natural gas for when your system experiences a power spike. This means you could potentially have a few more natural gas generators as well. But if your system pulls a constant amount of energy then it might not be worth the effort of automating it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I leave mine running 24/7 until the supply of gas runs low and then it switches, but I have my base running at near enough a net 0 power gain, During the day the batteries get drained slowly, and during the night they charge slowly. Like Hanro said, it depends on what the draw looks like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I think the clue here is NG power plant, so the roomtype which allows for tuning up generators. You'd be wasting refined metal on a NG that is turned off as the tune up only lasts 3 cycles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobruk Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, turbonl64 said: Do you mean the NG's with tune ups? Yes that'd be a waste as you'd want to have the tuned up generators working flat out. But better yet, check if you can run your system without the tune ups. If you can, you should not do tune ups. No, I meant connecting it to your main smart battery storage. This way it only kicks in if there is little power left. 17 minutes ago, Hanro50 said: I would argue that it would depend on what your power draw looks like. If its an inconsistent draw then it might be worth conserving some natural gas for when your system experiences a power spike. This means you could potentially have a few more natural gas generators as well. But if your system pulls a constant amount of energy then it might not be worth the effort of automating it. But what about heat? Leaving it on means constant heat production that builds up over time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanro50 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tobruk said: No, I meant connecting it to your main smart battery storage. This way it only kicks in if there is little power left. But what about heat? Leaving it on means constant heat production that builds up over time. Who builds a power-plant near there meal-wood food patch? I've built natural gas generators in hot subworlds before and unless you plan to keep them in a vacuum they don't tend to become to toasty. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tobruk said: No, I meant connecting it to your main smart battery storage. This way it only kicks in if there is little power left. But what about heat? Leaving it on means constant heat production that builds up over time. Well than it indeed depends how much power waste you have. If it is overall small compared to the total amount of jouls produced, than you should not bother with it. Also mind batteries now loose power over time. There is literally a break even point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I hae had mine running for about 200 cycles, the CO2 in the room is getting hotter and absorbing the heat well enough but it has yet to reach 71 degrees, My machines are made out of iron, But in the event that they get closer I would just inject super cooled Carbon Dioxide and let the slicksters eat the hot stuff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelflame Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 BlueLance, if you cool the Nat Gas before it goes into the generator, that affects what the output temp is of it. If you feed -50C Nat Gas into it, it will output the CO2 at the same temp, and the PW at just above it's freezing point. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I always leave mine on. Or at least a few of them. I use the liquid drip for free liquid cooling, so if I didn't leave them on my base would melt down. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcahtas Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 34 minutes ago, Steelflame said: BlueLance, if you cool the Nat Gas before it goes into the generator, that affects what the output temp is of it. If you feed -50C Nat Gas into it, it will output the CO2 at the same temp, and the PW at just above it's freezing point. I think the output of the Natural Gas Generators is dependent on what temperature the generator is itself rather than the temperature of the input I build these generators near nullifers will allow them to instantly expel Polluted Ice and very cold CO2. You can then put the output of the CO2 directly over a Nullifer (which usually results in the CO2 freezing). -50 is about the limit otherwise the CO2 can instantly condense in the pipe causing breakages. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1000795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 15 hours ago, Steelflame said: BlueLance, if you cool the Nat Gas before it goes into the generator, that affects what the output temp is of it. If you feed -50C Nat Gas into it, it will output the CO2 at the same temp, and the PW at just above it's freezing point. Ahh that I didnt know, but I never cool down my gas storage, I do have an experiment going though to liquify excess Nat Gas since it can store much more per tile. But otherwise I never usually cool the area, I even have my Polymer Press in there Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/87224-do-you-automate-your-ng-power-plant-or-leave-it-on/#findComment-1001046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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