Kabrute Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 The bottom battery runs the electro station and once full diverts power to the secondary battery feeding alternative industrial work running it off the excess hot water from the geysers. After extensive testing this is the most efficient mechanical filtration setup I have yet done. All others backed up or dropped hydrogen this one is, so far, 100% constant and fullproof so long as the outlet vents(all 3) aren't blocked. There are 2 O2 outlets and 1 hydrogen outlet*gene a little extra automation to preserve some hydrogen Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Since batteries now lose power over time it seems a bit wasteful to use two batteries when you really only need one. But a lot of designs have to tweaked with the introduced power loss in mind. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 My new favorite result from the brainiac. It could conceivably be a waste of metal but its allowing me to run this with the extra power and shuts down the gene when both batteries are full. plus each one is like half a big battery for storage anyway you could say I am going really minimalist on my approach Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, Kabrute said: It could conceivably be a waste of metal but its allowing me to run this with the extra power and shuts down the gene when both batteries are full. plus each one is like half a big battery for storage anyway you could say I am going really minimalist on my approach Maybe you didn't notice but Klei turned on the power loss in batteries yesterday. Smart batteries lose 400J of charge per cycle seemingly without it appearing in the daily reports yet. So minimizing amount of batteries used in a system should now be considered a goal as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 total smart batteries for my bases entire power plan, so 5x400=2kj so 9kj my highest cycle was 10 kj in the last 20 then I don't have any normal batteries at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kabrute said: My new favorite result from the brainiac Favourite result? Only result! Save scrum till you get it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plum Gate Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 @Kabrute, can you explain the gas piping overlay for that - are you using some sort of mechanical separation method? and/or just having the hydrogen loop around via a bridge? I too enjoy that NV buff. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOlz Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Saturnus said: Favourite result? Only result! Save scrum till you get it. Absolutely - no other comes close at the moment! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Plum Gate said: can you explain the gas piping overlay for that - are you using some sort of mechanical separation method? and/or just having the hydrogen loop around via a bridge? Both But looped around a valve set to 1.5 grams because that leaves room to add to the line but can only add whats already in the line. Since the pipe passes the valves inlet on its way to wherever it will always keep that 1.5 I primed the hydrogen filter with a powered filter.. Long story short loop from green to white on the valve then prime it with a gas/liquid. Once primed connect bridges to this filter line. Outlet is out from the valves white outlet (what wont fit through the valve passes on to wherever you want it to go). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Ironic Crater.sav The pump/filtration setup is allowing the pumps to run at 100% which, I think, has this setup running at 100% efficiency. I'm not seeing the normal lockups from the electrolizer that I'm used to seeing. Can anyone else confirm my results please? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 perfected the filter plumbing on it so that that too is now 100% Ironic Crater.sav Its not my doing, they fixed the pumps, electrolizers can be run at 100% now with just 2 pumps Had to add the second gene because it really is producing more than 100g/s hydrogen.@Saturnus Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I would claim that with your setup you still lose some of the hydrogen as it's emitted by the electrolyzer. In my opinion it's better to go with slightly lower yield per electrolyzer and perfect hydrogen production than the opposite as the amount of used water and power is directly proportional to amount of produced oxygen regardless of the setup - electrolyzer delays caused by overpressure stop both water and power use. You could even save some power if you use the setup where one pump only pumps hydrogen (and does so above certain pressure) because then it'll produce full 500g hydrogen packets, not the small ones as in your setup. For the automation part, I'd probably try just one breaker - when the battery is not full, the generator only charges the battery. And once full, external grid gets connected, letting it charge other things. You can even connect it through a transformer to get rid of the overload danger. If you want to avoid danger of sending hydrogen to the oxygen output even if the generator is full and the hydrogen output is blocked, check my perfect mechanical filter. A bit more complicated setup but guaranteed to work. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-998718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Thats not bad, same out as in I like it. I scaled the above up with a second electrolizer and was eventually able to push 2kg/s through the pipes constantly, using a bit of overflow baffling and redirecting it worked perfectly. You guys have truly taught me well. The problem was that it ran SUPREMELY hot, talking 50c and climbing hot, hotter than the material going into it, so maybe gonna run super hot water to it for heat deletion. Ended up having to build a borg microcube above it with oil at -20c just to neutralize the heat XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-999076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 15 hours ago, Kabrute said: The problem was that it ran SUPREMELY hot, talking 50c and climbing hot, hotter than the material going into it Electrolyzer always produces 70 C output regardless of input temperature. Hint: feed it 95 C water straight from geyser. And it can be safely enclosed in abyssalite chamber and will never overheat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-999273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kasuha said: Electrolyzer always produces 70 C output regardless of input temperature. Hint: feed it 95 C water straight from geyser. And it can be safely enclosed in abyssalite chamber and will never overheat. I thought of that too, but then I realized that I just have to pump all that air out and cool it anyway. So I decided, maybe not worth the effort for an enclosed system? All you gain is a little more control over pressures. The unit itself only produces 6W or so, and the air you're pumping out of the chamber sinks most of that anyway. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-999275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, avc15 said: I thought of that too, but then I realized that I just have to pump all that air out and cool it anyway. So I decided, maybe not worth the effort for an enclosed system? All you gain is a little more control over pressures. The unit itself only produces 6W or so, and the air you're pumping out of the chamber sinks most of that anyway. You gain control over the generated heat in the first place. 70 C is beyond comfortable temperatures for duplicants and most plants (pincha peppers being the only exception), so if you let the heat spill you'll likely need to cool other things that get heated up by it. It's better to just not let the heat spill and deal with it at a suitable place. Also, you don't need to deal with the hydrogen temperature, you just cool the oxygen. But now that I talk about it, it could be a good way to condition a pincha pepper farm. Of course the whole farm then needs to be heat-insulated because you need the heat in it, not outside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-999287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Have you tried to build a oxygen pyramid? they always have 100% efficiency with hydrogen, if setup correct. Big ones can power bases if you're considerate about your power consumption. Made one my self once with 13 electrolyzers, it had 3 hydro-gens running non-stop and still building up hydrogen. no filters used. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/86992-the-oc-electrolizer/#findComment-999299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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