randomdupe Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Because I could. Spoiler Has anyone else figured out how to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donutman07 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 nope, I decided to go a different route: Magma lock. Has the added benefit of putting hair on their chests. Share your secret, and I'll share mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoD Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 He is using naptha oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Sure. Not difficult to make a crude oil/naphtha airlock the same way you'd make a PW/H2O airlock. However, one of the primary advantages of the original naphtha airlock was the extremely low heat conductivity of naphtha making it possible to get materials through it without the airlock itself affecting it's temperature. That is lost with a hybrid airlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomdupe Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 Crude oil and Naphtha have identical colors so it looks like the old version. Since tubular update broke everyone's naphtha locks, I was curios to see if anyone else was using vertical liquid locks anymore. There hasn't been any discussion about this. Hmm @Saturnus, I hadn't considered the thermal change of materials moved through an airlock since it wouldn't spend much time in the lock itself. Of course a Hybrid lock requires far fewer materials than before so it should not transfer much at all. Vacuums can be used for total thermal insulation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I used to use them making a magma oil refinery but I found a way to avoid using them where hot materials got through. After that I haven't really had the need to use them. I just knew they could still be made the same way you used to make PW/H2O airlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eloy2030 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 18 hours ago, Saturnus said: Sure. Not difficult to make a crude oil/naphtha airlock the same way you'd make a PW/H2O airlock. However, one of the primary advantages of the original naphtha airlock was the extremely low heat conductivity of naphtha making it possible to get materials through it without the airlock itself affecting it's temperature. That is lost with a hybrid airlock. do u know which tile the material passes through? We can make that one naphtha and the other oil (or whatever) or is it both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, eloy2030 said: do u know which tile the material passes through? We can make that one naphtha and the other oil (or whatever) or is it both? I actually don't know if it's the upper or lower tile the material dupes are carrying is considered in. Given the exclusion principle, tiles can only be one type of material though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eloy2030 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, Saturnus said: Given the exclusion principle, tiles can only be one type of material though. not sure i follow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, eloy2030 said: not sure i follow... You can only have one type of gas or liquid in a tile. That is the in-game exclusion principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eloy2030 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, Saturnus said: You can only have one type of gas or liquid in a tile. That is the in-game exclusion principle. Sorry, my bad, I don´t know why u mention it. XD 7 minutes ago, eloy2030 said: We can make that one naphtha and the other oil (or whatever) or is it both? In the ¨both¨ part i mean the heat transfer... maybe there´s the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu_x32 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Sorry if this has been answered somewhere else, haven't played for a while and search was not useful. Have naphtha airlocks been fixed? Naphtha does not seem to stack vertically anymore? EDIT: never mind, I had missed Saturnus reply above. So sad they are broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, manu_x32 said: Have naphtha airlocks been fixed? Naphtha does not seem to stack vertically anymore? Precisely. It doesn't stack vertically anymore so pure naphtha airlocks like before doesn't work. However, you can still make them as you can see in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu_x32 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Precisely. It doesn't stack vertically anymore so pure naphtha airlocks like before doesn't work. However, you can still make them as you can see in this thread ok so hybrid airlocks now I guess. What's the trick to easily make those in a real game? Recommended quantities? Thanks a lot bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, manu_x32 said: ok so hybrid airlocks now I guess. What's the trick to easily make those in a real game? Recommended quantities? Thanks a lot bro! A puddle of that, and a puddle of this on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu_x32 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Saturnus said: A puddle of that, and a puddle of this on top Lol. Testing in debug, it seems like naphtha will always want to go on top of crude oil, and they settle to around 35 kg of naphtha on top of 350g of crude oil. I guess I'll just build them with bottle emptiers like before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomdupe Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Don't even need Naphtha anymore except that it has an identical color to Crude Oil (and liquid CO2). Started this discussion to help players figure out a new way to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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