SchlauFuchs Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hi, Did anyone calculate how much PO surface is required to turn PH2O into PO into O per Dupe? Cheers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Roughly 88 tiles per dupe. Sublimation is about 1.14g/s/tile exposed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Thanks. That will require some space in my colony... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 39 minutes ago, SchlauFuchs said: Thanks. That will require some space in my colony... If you want to generate PO2 then I suggest you trap morbs instead. You can create them by leaving a full outhouse uncleaned for a while. You need about 7 morbs/dupe and they have the neat property that they don't produce PO2 if you don't pump it away/use it. It takes a while to get that many morbs but the world has usually plenty of PO2 to use for hundreds of cycles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 I do not see morbs very often in my games, I don't think I have played long enough to find more than 10 in a game. Or do they spawn? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, SchlauFuchs said: I do not see morbs very often in my games, I don't think I have played long enough to find more than 10 in a game. Or do they spawn? You can spawn them by leaving an outhouse (the starter toilet) uncleaned for a while. I'am doing it like this: I've built 3 toilet rooms with outhouses, doors and some space for creature traps. Then I pay attention to the "X 'visits' remaining" (starts at 15) info. As soon as the outhouse is full the dupes want to clean it, so I change the door access so the dupes can't go in there anymore and use the other toilets. After the morb spawns it walks into the trap, so the toilet can be cleaned and used again. You can spawn up to 3 morbs by saving and reloading but I don't have the patience to count morb spawns, so I just instantly clean it after the first one has spawned. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I build a garden, takes 7 cycles to drop food on its own, this converts to rot piles, to polluted dirt, to PO2 that pushes 1800 g/meter as long as you keep it above 200 g/meter Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 30 minutes ago, Kabrute said: I build a garden, takes 7 cycles to drop food on its own, this converts to rot piles, to polluted dirt, to PO2 that pushes 1800 g/meter as long as you keep it above 200 g/meter I've tested this quite extensively. You need just under 117 mealwood per dupe. Here's how the needed 1400 mealwood for 12 dupes looks like. As well as the resulting FPS. Granted I didn't test with the latest updates so FPS could have have sky rocketed into possible even double digits. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 Okay this is a bit off topic but I wonder all the time how you generate these birds eye images from your colony? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I like how it runs on 3 fps. Btw is this a special worldgen? seems to have quite a big starting area and almost only ice biomes? Do you have the seed for that? Just now, SchlauFuchs said: Okay this is a bit off topic but I wonder all the time how you generate these birds eye images from your colony? One way to do this is by enabling debug mode. There is a lot of info on the web and this forum on how to do it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, SchlauFuchs said: Okay this is a bit off topic but I wonder all the time how you generate these birds eye images from your colony? Alt+S enables screenshot view. It's part of vanilla set up. You don't need debug. 7 minutes ago, clickrush said: Btw is this a special worldgen? seems to have quite a big starting area and almost only ice biomes? Do you have the seed for that? It's the Helicona world. It's one of the standard maps when you deselect random map. The 3 FPS was on my workstation with dual Xeon 8 cores and 192GB RAM Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchlauFuchs Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 great, thanks. Is there a cheat-sheet for similar actions? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, SchlauFuchs said: great, thanks. Is there a cheat-sheet for similar actions? Hit escape and see controls menu for all in-game key binds 58 minutes ago, clickrush said: If you want to generate PO2 then I suggest you trap morbs instead. You can create them by leaving a full outhouse uncleaned for a while. You need about 7 morbs/dupe and they have the neat property that they don't produce PO2 if you don't pump it away/use it. It takes a while to get that many morbs but the world has usually plenty of PO2 to use for hundreds of cycles. A while ago @manu_x32 made an automated system for morb spawning Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickrush Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Alt+S enables screenshot view. It's part of vanilla set up. You don't need debug. It's the Helicona world. It's one of the standard maps when you deselect random map. I would love to play this if it had slicksters. Is there any way to create them? I don't think debug allows to create them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, clickrush said: I would love to play this if it had slicksters. Is there any way to create them? I don't think debug allows to create them. You can copy/paste objects into blueprints that you can use on other maps This video will explain how it works Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIXBUGFIXBUGFIX Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Saturnus said: Roughly 88 tiles per dupe. Sublimation is about 1.14g/s/tile exposed. Higher density ph2o has the higher rate of po2 production. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/85571-formular-for-ph2o-surface-po-deodorizer-dupe/#findComment-985365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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