Liquid Chlorine Storage

[BlueLance]

Hello all, Now as many of you know you can liquify Chlorine using just a wheezewart and a wall (Forgive me if there is another way without using power) but couldn't this be used to store excess chlorine? If you bottle it does it evaporate like Polluted Water? If not then you could literally mop it up into bottles and leave them there indefinitely, or if you feel this is cheaty you can put a pump into the room and pump the liquid chlorine into an storage tank which cannot be opened accidently by dupes, this should help clear up chlorine that players get if they do not like it floating 

[brummbar7]

I did some chlorine liquefying in the AU, since chlorine was useless then. I don't know what the max tile storage for liquid chlorine is, but even if it were 800 like PW, that's 800 tiles of 1000g vanilla chlorine gas, per 1 tile of liquid chlorine.  You don't really need to cheeze it with bottles to store vast amounts of liquefied chlorine gas.  It'd be really good if eventually liquid chlorine was used as a requirement in a lot of industrial processes (plastic for instance), as it is in real life.  It's a good introductory level of gas liquefaction for newer players.

[Coolthulhu]

You can bottle it just fine. It will de-bottle if heated up back to gas temperatures, though.

You can get rid of it permanently by feeding it to hatches in bottle or solid form. It's not easy to transport in those forms, though - dupes won't sweep either, except to unbottler.

[Michi01]

Before the Outbreak Upgrade when it had no use, Eadra (a Twitch streamer) was condensing it to efficiently store it.

[BlueLance]

Before the outbreak update you could just mop it up and it would be gone XD

Yeah 800kg per tile in liquid form is fine, plus even if it starts to turn into gas, you could keep it stored in the room anyway right? or would it break the walls if 800kg of chlorine turned to gas?

[Lifegrow]

1 hour ago, BlueLance said:

Before the outbreak update you could just mop it up and it would be gone XD

Yeah 800kg per tile in liquid form is fine, plus even if it starts to turn into gas, you could keep it stored in the room anyway right? or would it break the walls if 800kg of chlorine turned to gas?

I have 2 rooms for this sort of thing - one room to liquify/solidify - and another room to store the liquid itself. That way you can turn the liquid room into a vacuum and once your pumps/switches and whatever else you might have in the room reach the -temps needed to keep the substance in a liquid state, it'll never turn back into gas. Also Chlorine is 1000kg per tile, CO2 is 2000kg per tile. See pics.

should probably explain - ignore the hydrogen filled tank on the right side - that was to see whether I could solidify the CO2 emitted by 10 NGG's  (turns out I could, but where's the fun in that!)

[BlueLance]

3 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

I have 2 rooms for this sort of thing - one room to liquify/solidify - and another room to store the liquid itself. That way you can turn the liquid room into a vacuum and once your pumps/switches and whatever else you might have in the room reach the -temps needed to keep the substance in a liquid state, it'll never turn back into gas. Also Chlorine is 1kg per tile, CO2 is 2kg per tile. See pics.

I assume you mean in its gaseous state? So if the material is in a vacuum it wont evaporate??

Edit - Showoff btw with the Co2

[Lifegrow]

Heat doesn't transfer in a vacuum, so as long as your liquids stay at/below the condensation points, the room will remain a vacuum and no gas will be released. 

[BlueLance]

10 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

Heat doesn't transfer in a vacuum, so as long as your liquids stay at/below the condensation points, the room will remain a vacuum and no gas will be released. 

So abssalite walls and your golden? 

[Michi01]

19 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

Also Chlorine is 1kg per tile, CO2 is 2kg per tile. See pics.

I think you meant to say 1000 kg and 2000 kg.

[Lifegrow]

4 minutes ago, BlueLance said:

So abssalite walls and your golden? 

Indeed. when pumping liquid into a room you can either a) make the room a vacuum beforehand, then start pumping your liquid gasses in. They'll remain in a liquid state and will be a quicker process. Or b) pump liquids into a dirty room, which will then immediately boil and fill the room with the evaporated gas. Eventually though if you continue to pump in -50ish liquid co2/chlorine it will cool the gasses down again, which will then subsequently liquefy anyway. 

Only difference here is that I prefer clean systems - so option b) would potentially leave other gasses present in the room, i.e. oxygen or hydrogen.

 

[Lifegrow]

Just now, Michi01 said:

I think you meant to say 1000 kg and 2000 kg.

Indeed I did  

[BlueLance]

I would go with creating a vacuum first, I do the same with my Hydrogen and Nat Gas Chambers I know that their isn't as much hassle when I do that.

[Lifegrow]

Just now, BlueLance said:

I would go with creating a vacuum first, I do the same with my Hydrogen and Nat Gas Chambers I know that their isn't as much hassle when I do that.

I rarely bother with hydrogen rooms as it's easier to just pump the gas from the bottom of the room, and leave a few tiles out at the lowest point - when hydrogen starts leaving the room, you're good to go and can just build the last tiles  

Likewise with CO2, pump from the highest top left point, then leave a tile to the left of the vent vacant - eventually the room will fill with co2 and everything else will be gone. Not as clean as using a pump, but works nicely on remote builds that don't need power.

[Synfony]

@Lifegrow,  I'd love to see your whole cooling system as well if you have time?

[mickaux]

Also, if you just want to get "rid" of extra chlorine somehow, you can set up a simple air compressor, like those in Brothgar's videos. As for now there's no limit on a gas pressure, so those settings allow you to store infinite amounts of any gas within few tiles, I guess it will be changed in future (gas pressure damage, similar to the liquid one).