kyle8544 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'm sure you can set priority to prevent this but is there a way to make duplicates realize that they well get trapped if they deiced to climb into a hole to build when climbing in was never needed? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Let us hope they don't correct it. It's hard enough to kill of dupes as it is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 It's not even very easy to define what 'trapped' means. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle8544 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 I hope they fix. I have other ways of trapping them and that was never one of them. Also can they not climb into accessible spaces and just stand there pretending to be stuck until they die? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle8544 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kasuha said: It's not even very easy to define what 'trapped' means. Trapped: To be stuck with no way out. Unless someone helps you or you make a way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, kyle8544 said: Trapped: To be stuck with no way out. They're inside an asteroid. What is 'out'? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle8544 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kasuha said: They're inside an asteroid. What is 'out'? Wow. Lets take it to that level. Good job. Much good that does. Anyways they need to make the duplicants know that climbing down to build above them is gonna get them trapped and they'll die. Is there some sort of programming that makes them want to build the furthest reachable tile first? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasuha Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 44 minutes ago, kyle8544 said: Wow. Lets take it to that level. Good job. Much good that does. 'intuitive' and 'obvious' are often not helpful in writing a program. If you can't come with an accurate definition, why would you expect that from someone else? 46 minutes ago, kyle8544 said: Is there some sort of programming that makes them want to build the furthest reachable tile first? But they don't do that. They only don't follow the order you'd intuitively want them to follow. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Saturnus said: Let us hope they don't correct it. It's hard enough to kill of dupes as it is. Build a room with a door, ask him to walk inside, lock the door. How hard is that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 3 hours ago, AlexRou said: Build a room with a door, ask him to walk inside, lock the door. How hard is that? Too hard. I want more easy ways. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Too hard. I want more easy ways. Tell him not to eat then Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 he's got you there Saturnus but you got me giggling Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 could also find high heat area and have the dupe you want dead build an oxidizer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, heckubis said: could also find high heat area and have the dupe you want dead build an oxidizer Thats very hard cuz its at the bottom of the map Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, AlexRou said: Thats very hard cuz its at the bottom of the map are your batteries hot? and leaving a high heat area ? if so try replace one with the oxidizer Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, heckubis said: are your batteries hot? and leaving a high heat area ? if so try replace one with the oxidizer nope, my batteries are in the ice biome Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckubis Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 ahh its funny thogh little purple slposion took out 4 on in one go on me. I laugh so hard Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokhen Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Saturnus said: Let us hope they don't correct it. It's hard enough to kill of dupes as it is. Just set their calorie consumption to 0. What's hard about that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 3 hours ago, AlexRou said: Tell him not to eat then Is it really too much too ask to have a bottom next to the "move to" where it says "commit suicide"... priority 9, please? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokhen Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Is it really too much too ask to have a bottom next to the "move to" where it says "commit suicide"... priority 9, please? Just set their calorie consumption to 0. What's hard about that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRou Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, Saturnus said: Is it really too much too ask to have a bottom next to the "move to" where it says "commit suicide"... priority 9, please? Go play lemmings then, you'll love it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokhen Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, AlexRou said: Go play lemmings then, you'll love it. What.... where can I find this beautiful DOS relic? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-890959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle8544 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 3/24/2017 at 11:28 AM, Kasuha said: 'intuitive' and 'obvious' are often not helpful in writing a program. If you can't come with an accurate definition, why would you expect that from someone else? But they don't do that. They only don't follow the order you'd intuitively want them to follow. You still contribute nothing. All I asked for was a way: not you to be a smart ass troll. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-894038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZSST Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Quick fix - prioritize them with levels when filling, it would look like this (5-9 - priority H-already built walls/minerals): H55555555H H55555555H HH6666666H HH7777777H HHH888888H HHH999999H HHHHHHHHHH Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/76754-building-from-the-bottom/#findComment-894137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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