Ice Maker Makes Food Too Easy

[trippill]

With the addition of the ice maker, now all you need for meatballs is a log and a monster meat. If you fuel the ice maker with the log, it gives you three ice, which, when combined with the monster meat, gives you a meatball. Anyone else this is too easy?

[SirBuizelton]

With the addition of the ice maker, now all you need for meatballs is a log and a monster meat. If you fuel the ice maker with the log, it gives you three ice, which, when combined with the monster meat, gives you a meatball. Anyone else this is too easy?

Mmm, maybe. I always thought it was kinda weird that 3 ice and meat makes meatballs. But the thing is, I found this out very very recently and have been able to easily live without it so I dunno. I certainly wouldn't care if it was gone but it'd make ice a lot less useful.

[trippill]

Good point, I just think that with such a good food item being so easily created, it takes some of the challenge out of the game. 

[Codsworth]

the nerf should be not on the ice maker but on the meatball... freaking OP item, cooks fast, reasonable spoil time, TOO EASY to make, heals and recover sanity with an insane food value.... klei? nerf that!

[Talavaj]

Nah, meatballs are fine.

It is the other foods that are too crappy.

 

Many foods are better eaten separately than cooked.

Some of the foods are so horrible they replenish less hunger than even the required ingredients alone do, let alone counting the fillers...

[Codsworth]

I personally have an "no meatball policy" while playing, cause for exemple meatballs are not that diferent from meaty stew, while meat stew needs 4 meats to be cooked and meatballs you need one and 3 ice, so with the 4 meat to make 1 meaty stew you can make 4 meatballs, see? that's kinda OP for me @.@

[trippill]

I agree with Talavaj, I personally have never found a use for Ratatouille 

[InSpace]

I wish for most over powered foods like stew and meatballs would be nerfed, also ice should not be used in crockpot, doesn't make alot of sense tbh. Eating ice doesn't fill you up irl.

[trippill]

I think ice should be kept as a filler, just to give it some use besides extinguishing fires. However, what it really op is the ability to use hail as a filler. Hurricane season is pretty much the equivalent of raining meatballs.

[Talavaj]

I agree with Talavaj, I personally have never found a use for Ratatouille 

You can turn any mushroom into Ratatouille with 3 ice, so that's something... I guess.

 

Though without using scummy fillers, I think everything outside of Meatballs, Meaty Stew, Turkey Dinner, Bacon&Eggs(just barely) and Dragonpie replenishes less hunger than it would if eaten separately.

So, yeah.

 

At least with the DLCs it seems most new foods at least restore a lot of health or sanity.

[_Q_]

Ice should not be valid crock pot filler, could be used only in ice creams and thats it.

[InSpace]

Ice should not be valid crock pot filler, could be used only in ice creams and thats it.

 

Yes. It makes no sense for it to be used in anything else. I mean if you mix meat with ice and cook it, it should just become goop.

[trippill]

To be fair, ice is a more reasonable filler than sticks. I can't remember the last time I made a pie out of 75% sticks...

[HeilerderWelten]

To be fair, ice is a more reasonable filler than sticks. I can't remember the last time I made a pie out of 75% sticks...

 

I made one yesterday...but it wasn´t very good.

[SirBuizelton]

Good point, I just think that with such a good food item being so easily created, it takes some of the challenge out of the game.

yeah, I can certainly agree with that.

[_Q_]

I can say that I'm using meatballs mostly, or honey ham, and abuse food for healing. Eating stuff at nearly full hunger just to get healing effect.

 

[SirBuizelton]

I agree with Talavaj, I personally have never found a use for Ratatouille

if I'm reading the devs' intentions correctly, I believe the whole point of ratatouille is that it's not a very great food item. The veggies are easily acquired through peaceful means but if you want really good food you have to actually go out into the world and find a way to get meat. It encourages you to explore and take risks

[trippill]

That makes sense, but the reason I don't think it's very useful is that its ingredients have more value than the finished product (Unless you use mushrooms)

[PhelsarusBeel]

if I'm reading the devs' intentions correctly, I believe the whole point of ratatouille is that it's not a very great food item. The veggies are easily acquired through peaceful means but if you want really good food you have to actually go out into the world and find a way to get meat. It encourages you to explore and take risks

 

Well for me the thing is that 9/10 the veggies give more hunger and healing the Ratatouille alone. For example in SW 4 Seaweed in the pot makes one Ratatouille what iirc gives 25 Hunger and heals for 3 HP.

 

Thing is 4 Cooked seaweed are much better since each gives 12.5 hunger as well as healing 3 HP so by cooking Ratatouille you actually sacrifice 25 hunger and 9 extra healing for what 5 Sanity booh f*****g whooo as if replenishing Sanity isn't to easy already if you know what you'r doing.

[Talavaj]

if I'm reading the devs' intentions correctly, I believe the whole point of ratatouille is that it's not a very great food item. The veggies are easily acquired through peaceful means but if you want really good food you have to actually go out into the world and find a way to get meat. It encourages you to explore and take risks

For a new player maybe, for more experienced players it is much easier to stockpile meats tho.

 

Not to mention new players will have issues using crockpot too, since they have high chance to ruin their ingredients with morbidly inefficient recipes such as Ratatouille or Stuffed Eggplant.

[trippill]

I remember my first few days with the crockpot, I rejoiced whenever I got an eggplant because I new I could make a stuffed eggplant! Imagine my disappointment after I did the math a few times... 

[SirBuizelton]

For a new player maybe, for more experienced players it is much easier to stockpile meats tho.

Not to mention new players will have issues using crockpot too, since they have high chance to ruin their ingredients with morbidly inefficient recipes such as Ratatouille or Stuffed Eggplant.

it's all about dat learning curve

But yeah I totally see what you're saying and agree

[Talavaj]

I remember back in the early beta I think food had specific values based on what were the ingredients.

I think back in the day Honeyed Ham was the OP OP thing, oh the days.

 

I think now it is only worth making if you use monster meat and ice.

[Codsworth]

To be fair, ice is a more reasonable filler than sticks. I can't remember the last time I made a pie out of 75% sticks...

 

Tried made one these days... but it was kinda of just a wet goop

[Thieverpedia]

This might be a fun opportunity to change recipes up a bit and add some frozen meat items. I think it's called carpaccio? Whatever it is, Wigfrid would probably be happy to have meat in frozen form. Still, would have to be fairly weak for balancing...