Nick's opinion on WX players.

[Nickolas2600]

So first off if you are a normal player joining a normal server with random people do not play wx-78. In my opinion he just requires way to much attention and cooperation between all players to be useful ESPECIALLY when ROG is active all gears have a better use than him. I feel he is better played between friends so players can much easily work with him if played right and upgraded correctly he is like one of the best late game characters in the game. What are your opinions on WX players? Do you feel he needs a change?

[MenaAthena]

Yeah, WX has just become kind of useless now. Either he needs to be tweaked a bit or gears need to be made more plentiful/renewable.

I mean, I know you can get gears from tumbles weeds, but the chance is so low you'd have to harvest a ton of them before getting even one gear.

[MenaAthena]

-Sorry, double post. Someone please delete this please-

[TemporaryMan]

A ton?  If you harvest 23 there's just less than a 50% chance you won't find any gears, and a 50% chance to find one or more.  (99%^³ of no gears per t-weed, 99%^^3x23 = 49.98%)  Harvesting 23 t-weeds takes what, a day?  Day and a half?  And only half the time you'll leave empty-handed.*  

 

*where empty-handed means 34 grass, 23 sticks, 2 berries, a foliage, one silk, dark petals, a gnome, a bee stinger, two reeds, two bath plugs and a frog.

 

And as for being useful, WX has 150 health without upgrades in Together.  That's the same as most characters.  It's not maximized, but it certainly isn't useless.  Eating stale and spoiled food is useful, too.  

[Toroic]

I agree with Temporary Man. He's much better of a pick in dst because gears aren't limited, and are generally more plentiful.

Willow is still a popular character, and now that she doesn't start fires when insane she doesn't have a downside in the group, all else being equal.

Wx could easily farm all his own gears, and plenty of other resources as well.

[Mobbstar]

WX is literally designed to be tough at the beginning but grow more powerful later on.

1. Starts with pain in rain and low stats.
2. Can make sufficient protection and eat food that would else be wasted.
3. Incredible stats and no active drawbacks (okay, wetness may get slightly annoying, but that's negligible next to most characters' drawbacks)

It's even stronger contrast in multiplayer, isn't it?

[Flare2V]

What let you to the conclusion that WX-78, of all characters, needs a buff?

[Toroic]

WX is literally designed to be tough at the beginning but grow more powerful later on.

• Starts with pain in rain and low stats.
• Can make sufficient protection and eat food that would else be wasted.
• Incredible stats and no active drawbacks (okay, wetness may get slightly annoying, but that's negligible next to most characters' drawbacks)

It's even stronger contrast in multiplayer, isn't it?

During anything but a spring start, Wx-78 is not any tougher than any other character. His only weakness is losing hp from rain, and it's pretty often that rain comes with a storm which completely cancels out the health loss.

If he started at 100 hp like he used to, you'd have a point. Now, he's got a notable edge over wilson from 1 gear on.

[Shian]

OP pretty much nailed it.

 

You can usually tell who is a newbie on public servers by the fact that they chose WX. Servers don't last long enough for it to be any use, and if you want a tanky character you pick Wigfrid or Wolfgang without having to worry about finding enough gears.

 

When playing with friends/a server you know will be there tomorrow, WX is a much more viable choice due to the long-term nature of the server.

 

I.e. no need for a buff or a nerf.

[XirmiX]

Somebody, playing as WX on that old server that I play on got 21 gears from tumbleweeds; 21 gears! Idk, may be the chance of WX players getting gears is higher than for other players now or something, or that he was insanely lucky. He left like 6 - 7 gears for us to do whatever and ate the rest, getting maxed out on stats... but then died and lost all 400 health; due to deerclops that spawned on the first day, in the morning of winter - like wtf?! Is that supposed to be possible? Wasn't Deerclops moved to spawn at least after half of the winter has gone?

 

Lets hope that he can do his WX magic with weeds and get jackpots on weeds another time as well.

 

And I'd say, WX is pretty much balanced; it's just that gears need to be more abundant for newcomers to be able to buff with them and so that more experienced players don't complain about newbies eating their gears.

 

And perhaps WX players should drop like half the amount of gears that they had eaten before. I know it would be OP and easy to get stats back up if all of the gears were dropped, but none? Really? Considering how scarce they are? That's very sad.

[merkmerk73]

Don't play WX if you aren't willing to go out to the desert and farm your own gears.

 

Aside from that he's OP in my opinion - his downside is hardly a downside at all. In fact, he could use another downside to make him more in line with other characters - overheats/freezes faster because he's made of metal or something.

[Nickolas2600]

A ton?  If you harvest 23 there's just less than a 50% chance you won't find any gears, and a 50% chance to find one or more.  (99%^³ of no gears per t-weed, 99%^^3x23 = 49.98%)  Harvesting 23 t-weeds takes what, a day?  Day and a half?  And only half the time you'll leave empty-handed.*  

 

*where empty-handed means 34 grass, 23 sticks, 2 berries, a foliage, one silk, dark petals, a gnome, a bee stinger, two reeds, two bath plugs and a frog.

 

And as for being useful, WX has 150 health without upgrades in Together.  That's the same as most characters.  It's not maximized, but it certainly isn't useless.  Eating stale and spoiled food is useful, too.  

True but he cant maximize hes potential like other characters can.

[Nickolas2600]

What let you to the conclusion that WX-78, of all characters, needs a buff?

He doesnt need a buff. He is bad with a bunch of random people.

[Nickolas2600]

I agree with Temporary Man. He's much better of a pick in dst because gears aren't limited, and are generally more plentiful.

Willow is still a popular character, and now that she doesn't start fires when insane she doesn't have a downside in the group, all else being equal.

Wx could easily farm all his own gears, and plenty of other resources as well.

I like your point. Wx in servers SHOULD have to find his own gears. I feel he is like a solo player smillar to webber.

[Nickolas2600]

During anything but a spring start, Wx-78 is not any tougher than any other character. His only weakness is losing hp from rain, and it's pretty often that rain comes with a storm which completely cancels out the health loss.

If he started at 100 hp like he used to, you'd have a point. Now, he's got a notable edge over wilson from 1 gear on.

Maybe if people worked together to comb the desert their would be more gears for wx players.

[The Letter W]

Ehhh... I'd say it depends on who's hands he's in, really. When I host Open servers and I get WX players, I let them know that we need a few Gears for necessary structures, but anything they find themselves after that is fair game. 

[redeye85]

Yea, I personally play as WX often, and I rarely consume gears.  To be honest, he is perfectly useable unbuffed, is great for long range exploring cause he can just pick odds and ends for food and not worry about spoilage, and his main weakness is fairly easy to manage.  Once all the gears for needed structures are done with, then you can start consuming what you find and he starts becoming a tank to go along with everything else.  As the game progresses as well, I almost never have to worry about grabbing food as the spoilage from everyone else can sate me easily enough, I just do it to reciprocate the fact I am being handed off food all the time.

 

I think his benefits really grow the more people their are available in the game as well presently due to all this.  He seems best when used as the third+ member of the team.  With all that said though, I suppose I could see how a newer player could cause issues playing WX as they would likely be tempted to jump the shark and get to eating gears right off the bat rather than handing them off for crucial survival items.  This problem exists with just about any character though, as they all have their range of potentially being played poorly for what the character is - learning curve is a big factor.