Screamer21 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Hi everyone, Im playing DST RoG dedicated server and playing from the same machine: OS W7 64bits Intel Core2 Quad Q9450 2.67GHz Ram 8Gb 13 Mods 30mb download 1mb upload tick rate 15 or 60, 30 dont works properly sometimes it starts lagging, when 6 player are playing, and idont know what to do.... Is my machine enough powefull?What can i do to get better gameplay? PD:I think worldgenoverride.lua isnt working fine, and there is a lot of new variables that doesnt appear in the wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNiO55 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Hi Screamer, im not sure it's problem with number of player because you can have same lag with 4 players or with 8 players your machine look good, when you says lag you see bad host? maybe if you can check your cpu when you have lag because on the server dedicated you have still 80% - 100% on one core of the CPUSo I think there really is no ideal number of players, we must wait for the servers to be much more stable, which can take time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamer21 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hi Screamer, im not sure it's problem with number of player because you can have same lag with 4 players or with 8 players your machine look good, when you says lag you see bad host? maybe if you can check your cpu when you have lag because on the server dedicated you have still 80% - 100% on one core of the CPUSo I think there really is no ideal number of players, we must wait for the servers to be much more stable, which can take time Not always bad host, sometimes appears good host and is unplayable for my friends, all time they have around 30-40 ms ping, when it comes laggy they have 500ms ping.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNiO55 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 oh yes strange i have never see high ping when i see bad host, i have only CPU overload, so maybe it's not same problem all players have 500ms ping when it's bad host? or just you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 @ToNiO55, I think he was saying that when a player has high ping, then the server starts to lag (rather than when the server starts to lag, players get high ping). As far as I know this is an open problem that the devs are still looking into (having a high-ping player on the server degrades performance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNiO55 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hi @rezecib, ah ok thank you for clarifying,I had forgotten this detail so I have not play too much on hosts, and I know that the first problem it's the ping,so this problem would come from the Screamer21 connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezecib Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 @ToNiO55, No, so as I understand it, you could have 5 players on with good ping (because they're close to the server and have good connections), then one leaves and a new player (far away or with a bad connection) joins with a high ping, and this causes the host to lag for everyone and become "Bad Host". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamer21 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Sometimes a player has 80 ms ping and tell that the game is unplayable, other times we are playing fine and suddenly they all appear with 500ms (good) and starts lagging.... my question is: Could I use another pc for playing?? does it make better server performance?? PD: How can i do to see my world editing from same pc?? this option appears in grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubuntuaddicted Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 it's not going to matter when you're upload is only 1Mbps. You need more than that to host many people. Not to mention it depends where these people are connecting from. Also, if this is hosted at your house you have to take into account other people in your household using the same network which will make your upload even less or if they're streaming HD video and using all the download bandwidth there may not be much bandwidth left for you to be downloading info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted March 31, 2015 Developer Share Posted March 31, 2015 @ToNiO55, I think he was saying that when a player has high ping, then the server starts to lag (rather than when the server starts to lag, players get high ping). As far as I know this is an open problem that the devs are still looking into (having a high-ping player on the server degrades performance). We haven't been able to repro this yet. We tried a number of tests with various combinations of pings and packet loss. Anyone who's able to reproducibly trigger this (bad host due to a playing with someone who has a bag ping) should reach out to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted March 31, 2015 Developer Share Posted March 31, 2015 it's not going to matter when you're upload is only 1Mbps. It's definitely easy to fill a 1mbit/s upload, and that certainly looks like the weakest link in the original poster's setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamer21 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's definitely easy to fill a 1mbit/s upload, and that certainly looks like the weakest link in the original poster's setup. So it can support 6 players?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maris Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Is my machine enough powefull? What can i do to get better gameplay? 1) 1mb upload - very very low internet speed. Increase speed of you internet. 10mb upload/download will be enough.2) Increase CPU speed of single core. It says "2.67GHz" now. But it could be 3+ GHz or even 4+ GHz. It could be "cold" i5 processor which can be easily overclocked. sometimes it starts lagging, when 6 player are playing, and idont know what to do.... Look at host quality (TAB key ingame). If it says "Good host", you are out of internet bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamer21 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 1) 1mb upload - very very low internet speed. Increase speed of you internet. 10mb upload/download will be enough.2) Increase CPU speed of single core. It says "2.67GHz" now. But it could be 3+ GHz or even 4+ GHz. It could be "cold" i5 processor which can be easily overclocked. Look at host quality (TAB key ingame). If it says "Good host", you are out of internet bandwidth. I cant get better internet.... I was thinking about getting an i7 16gb ram but i cant do anything with my connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted April 8, 2015 Developer Share Posted April 8, 2015 I was thinking about getting an i7 16gb ram but i cant do anything with my connection Yeah, all you can do then is try to make sure your 1mbit upload is as uncongested as possible when you're playing then. Or get a dedicated server so that your internet connection is no longer the limiting factor. But at least you didn't go buy an even faster PC thinking that would solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamer21 Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Yeah, all you can do then is try to make sure your 1mbit upload is as uncongested as possible when you're playing then. Or get a dedicated server so that your internet connection is no longer the limiting factor. But at least you didn't go buy an even faster PC thinking that would solve the problem. My friend has FTTH 100/10 but his PC OS is windows 8, when he creates the world only he can see it, thats the reason to pla on my server.... We dont know why only he can see the server, and it appears in http://my.jacklul.com/dstservers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer nome Posted April 8, 2015 Developer Share Posted April 8, 2015 My friend has FTTH 100/10 but his PC OS is windows 8, when he creates the world only he can see it, thats the reason to pla on my server.... We dont know why only he can see the server, and it appears in http://my.jacklul.com/dstservers/ Even if the server is in the listing, your client won't display it unless it's able to ping that server successfully. It sounds like your friend has router / networking / firewall issues. There are a fair few forum threads dedicated to resolving such issues if you look around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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