TheShortRobot Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The more I think about our Robot friend the more I feel he's a bit unfair. - My first reason to this is because of his end game stats. I know you COULD just stunt yourself and not eat gears to get all the upgrades but I hate doing that in games. I feel as if the bonuses should be smaller or maybe just temporary because late game, having 400 health is a bit crazy along with all his other crazy things like 300 Sanity and 200 Hunger.- Him being able to eat things that are going bad makes it so he doesn't have to waste gears to make Ice Boxes which means he can use ALL the gears he finds to upgrade himself making it quicker for him to reach end game results. - He takes damage in the rain. Yea, so what? 400 health, rain doesn't do anything with that kind of health.- And lastly, him being over charged by Lightning. Makes him run faster, regain health, and break things faster. It's pretty much a Werebeaver but without the drawbacks. It lasts an ENTIRE DAY meaning you could wipe out whole biomes. You lose 33 sanity each time struck but like before SO WHAT 300 Sanity, 33 Sanity loss is nothing. Also, you get SYSTEM OVERLOADED when re spawning via Touch Stone allowing you to get back to where you died A LOT faster.He pretty much has no drawbacks and he makes Adventure Mode a breeze when he has full Upgrades. I feel like he is a bit TOO easy and desperately needs some sort of draw back. Maybe the more you upgrade the slower you move. Or the more you upgrade the more inventory space you lose due to all your slots being filled by new parts being added to your body. OR HELL, maybe when you SYSTEM OVERLOAD you go bat **** crazy, that would make him interesting. Just something that would make him harder. I know that there have been threads about this before but i'm hoping that with Reign of Giants, Klei will finally see that this guy has the potential for a re work. It would be awesome to tell me what you think of this and maybe Klei could see it to. (Sorry for any errors in my typing, I whipped this up kind of quickly. ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaki Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 He also can regain all his hp if you use telelocator stuff on something that isn't you, and you can't freeze with it.Worry free revive will be fixed in DLC, and rain damage will be much bigger threat, developer also said that having full rain resistance would have drawback. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-430910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShortRobot Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 What about all his health bonuses though? 400 Health... no need for armor even. They need to re work him to be honest. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-430919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Klei doesn't balance the characters against each other, so really character rebalance at this point is a low priority. Characters are balanced for simply what they are, OP or not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Also, wrong forum. This should go in suggestions/feedback. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShortRobot Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Ah crap you're right Silentdarkness. Sorry bout that :/. And yea Creeper you are right, single player games don't really need re balancing because it's meant to be played how you want to play it. And I did some more thinking and kind of realized he is balanced. - Early game is hell.- In RoG, it's so hard to start due to rain. Legit near impossible.- You go insane so much due to rain it's not even funny. Lightning is hell.- Getting gears is now the hardest thing NA.- Once you're end game all characters are pretty much invincible due to camps being so clustered with tooth traps. So having high health, sanity, and hunger mean nothing due to all the food you'd have.New DLC balanced him. I'm scared now. This DLC is kicking my ass. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scize Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 well i guess the robot is for noobs who can't get past day 3!! but choosing a character is your choice. i choose other characters to have fun with but the main protagonist in this game is wilson. i don't feel anywhere near accomplished of anything in don't starve if I'm not using him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If the game would simply add some serious problem tied to having 0 sanity, then WX-78 would be completely balanced. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scize Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If the game would simply add some serious problem tied to having 0 sanity, then WX-78 would be completely balanced.with 300 sanity?? if you reach 0 off that then you have no business playing this game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soopakoopa Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If the game would simply add some serious problem tied to having 0 sanity, then WX-78 would be completely balanced. IMO sanity should, to a certain extent, take control away for short periods at random intervals for somereason or another. Since insanity is basically a crippled judgement paired with a blurry grasp of reality, itwould make sense. Like for example when insane your character might randomly charge at mobs and unavoidablyattack them. Yes, that would suck, but hey, do a better job of managing your sanity! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShortRobot Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 Good idea Soopa. And Scize, I don't even understand your logic. He's very weak early game (Even more so now) and it's not like you always have those high stats, you need to earn them. I regret even making this thread because now I realize he's pretty balanced with RoG. Also, what are you talking about... the Pengulls are the main protagonists in this game! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 with 300 sanity?? if you reach 0 off that then you have no business playing this gameHeheh. You don't even know how easy it is to lose mass amounts of sanity. Try taking on Deerclops, or going cave-spelunking for a day or two. Then see how much sanity you have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Heheh. You don't even know how easy it is to lose mass amounts of sanity. Try taking on Deerclops, or going cave-spelunking for a day or two. Then see how much sanity you have.Deerclopse especially. He drains 400 sanity/min when you simply stand next to him. It's a literal hell dealing with WX's sanity early game as well. Doing simple things like digging up graves or jumping into worm holes can end with Terrorbeaks and Crawling Horrors Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeetle Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 No. Bad idea. Loss of control of your character in a permadeath game is not fun. especially if it's random. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentdarkness1 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 No. Bad idea. Loss of control of your character in a permadeath game is not fun. especially if it's random.I think that insanity can be easily handled by either tougher nightmare creatures, or more unique ones(Say, a Nightmare Creature that lights your structures on fire), or perhaps making items look like other items(I.E, Monster Meat looking like meatballs). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soopakoopa Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think that insanity can be easily handled by either tougher nightmare creatures, or more unique ones(Say, a Nightmare Creature that lights your structures on fire), or perhaps making items look like other items(I.E, Monster Meat looking like meatballs). Hmm...yes, that's a better idea I suppose. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
porps Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah i agree that he is a bit OP... Or at least, his late game is. But it's a single player game so why does that matter at all? If he is too easy for you, simply use a different character. Some are clearly designed to make things more difficult than others.There is no reason that the characters in a single player game must be balanced. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvilSword Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah i agree that he is a bit OP... Or at least, his late game is. But it's a single player game so why does that matter at all? If he is too easy for you, simply use a different character. Some are clearly designed to make things more difficult than others.There is no reason that the characters in a single player game must be balanced.And it's damn difficult to do 'A Cold Reception' with WX-78, literally hell. With the constant rains and lack of an umbrella.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaki Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 well i guess the robot is for noobs who can't get past day 3!!Except he starts with stats worse than Wes, the hardcore character, and you are damaged by rain, one of the main focuses of DLC, and you need to actually be good at kiting to get some gears, and you need to explore the map to find clockworks... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaAtia Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 To be honest the only character that was truthfully the easy mode of the game was the pre-Strange New Powers Wolfgang. Perm Strength boost and health boost. But let's not start a war about who's OP or not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViridiZant Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Not really. He's horrible at the beginning, pretty much.I could never really suprass 40 days with him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-431985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaki Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You bettter start exploring the world if you plas as him, if you don't find chess biome before winter comes, you are basically screwed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-432080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamford38 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Apologies if this has been asked a thousand times before. But how many gears does it take to fully power up WX? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-432155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misaki Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Apologies if this has been asked a thousand times before. But how many gears does it take to fully power up WX?Fifteen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-432173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShortRobot Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ok guys, now that we've come to the conclusion WX is balanced. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/32810-wx-78-op/#findComment-432227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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