grem6 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) Lately, klei have been making updates primarily for new content, with adjustments to older content being on the side, and not the primary point or highlight of the update. Which is why i suggest that, after the shadow rift finale update gets released, we get an update dedicated to adjusting older content, that came out not entirely satisfying during it's update, such as rift system (waiting for 15 days for brightshades for example) and cave bridges, or things that were simply left unfinished, such as frostjaw and warblers, as well as adding various community suggestions for other changes, such as using elastispacer on howlitzer or making water balloons and other things make creatures wet (all these changes are only examples, not exact things that they'd have to add during the update, so if you disagree with them, but still are fine with the overall idea of an update for revisiting old content, that would be a "yes" in the poll). Edited August 12, 2025 by grem6 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
POOH_LY Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 I think, instead of dedicating a whole patch to revisit old stuff, would it be better if they sneak in a few tweaks for old content in every update (with new content)? That way, there's new stuff to incentivize players to play the game as well. (Basically, what they're doing with the drying racks.) Right now, we don't get updates every month, so having too big of a gap of new content might hurt the player base, I don't know. 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grem6 Posted August 12, 2025 Author Share Posted August 12, 2025 3 minutes ago, POOH_LY said: I think, instead of dedicating a whole patch to revisit old stuff, would it be better if they sneak in a few tweaks for old content in every update (with new content)? That way, there's new stuff to incentivize players to play the game as well. (Basically, what they're doing with the drying racks.) Right now, we don't get updates every month, so having too big of a gap of new content might hurt the player base, I don't know. The way it is now, with a few changes to old stuff along with new content, i fear it'd take an extreme amount of time to fix up all the unfinished/unsatisfying stuff, especially given that lunar hail changes were planned to be during frostjaw update (i think? maybe it was the crab king rework update? not sure) but only got in now, over a year later, and frostjaw's still waiting to get finished. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 I would be down for a 1-a few QoL updates after the arc concludes to touch up/expand on old content currently implemented. I know it’s not as exciting, but it makes a huge difference in terms of enjoyability. The moonstorm quest improvements are probably the biggest example, with the spark arcs going from 3-1, ways to farm gleams/charged shards in mass, and said shards not spoiling at extreme speeds. These make it so much less tedious to mass farm the champ, and go a long way to improving the player experience. 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
POOH_LY Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 40 minutes ago, grem6 said: i fear it'd take an extreme amount of time to fix up all the unfinished/unsatisfying stuff, Yes, because players will always have suggestions/improvements/balance changes over the existing items/content. I've seen tons of them. Even though a lot of them sound good, we've to consider whether the items/content really need to be fixed, whether it'll be worth the time, or which one should take priority. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 I’d love for them to revisit some of the magic items… they’re quite dated dare I say (cough chilled amulet) 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 I’d like new stuff in the caves and ocean. 5 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 52 minutes ago, Jakepeng99 said: I’d like new stuff in the caves and ocean. Oh definitely caves I feel caves are incredibly glossed over when it comes to lack of content. I mean I only ever go down there for ruins/rifts maybe rarely for lunar mushrooms. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 Normally yes I would, but after seeing CK I'm not sure I want to give them a chance again Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormwood123 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 12 minutes ago, Well-met said: Normally yes I would, but after seeing CK I'm not sure I want to give them a chance again Crab king is really fun now the old crab king was cheesed by almost everyone. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 3 hours ago, wormwood123 said: Crab king is really fun now the old crab king was cheesed by almost everyone. not saying old CK was perfect, but it was certainly closer to be than the whatever mess it is right now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) Someone once made a map (can’t remember where the post is, sorry) where the mainland was just a small chunk of the whole world, and the rest was a huge ocean with tons of new islands to explore. The islands wouldn’t even need to be anything fancy at first—just existing set pieces and biomes turned into islands. Subsequent updates may (or may not) add special content to the new archipelago, but even just a first update to open up the exploration part of the game would be great. And a larger late-game boat base would be awesome. Edited August 12, 2025 by ShadowDuelist 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumber64 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 The mushroom planter is way out of date, IMO. From comments in the code, it looks like living log was chosen for restoring uses because depletion is indistinguishable from structural damage? The cost is too high even before you consider RWYS crops, cave mushrooms, and banana bushes make it basically irrelevant for anyone but Wormwood. It really just needs to work with manure and rot, and maybe have slower growth instead of rotting when snow falls. 6 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 (edited) I voted "no" because 1 update isn't enough. We could go a whole season of updates focused on old content. Redoing things that already exist: World Generation Overhaul Additional server/world settings to adjust difficulty both easier and harder Boss redesigns (ideally to make certain bosses a threat globally if you don't kill them) Item balancing (Clothes, Armors, Weapons, Foods) Crockpot overhaul (We got a decent though overpowered farming, if only crockpots were updated too) Adding new things to old content: New seasonal hazards (Blizzards, monsoons, tornadoes, whatever) New creatures for old biomes, hostile and passive (especially important for caves) New Crockpot recipes Plenty of other things for Pre-rift that I can't think of. The main thing, at least for me, is I beg of you Klei if you insist on bosses in a survival game, give me a reason to fight them. "loot" isn't enough, make them oppose my way of life in some way. Not every boss has to be this way but something as simple as Malbatross just being a nuisance when trying to fish in a shoal is enough incentive to slay them. Edited August 12, 2025 by Evelo 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyoton123 Posted August 12, 2025 Share Posted August 12, 2025 I would sacrifice many future updates for them to update old content. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWorstNightm Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 9 hours ago, wormwood123 said: Crab king is really fun now the old crab king was cheesed by almost everyone. It's funny because bees could be used for cheese then , and I use bees for cheese now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waywarbler Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Evelo said: Boss redesigns (ideally to make certain bosses a threat globally if you don't kill them) Random idea: Frostjaw generating more and more icebergs throughout the ocean until you defeat him. Also, I do agree with one update not being enough. I hope the next few updates following this arc's conclusion will be mainly just, revisiting and fleshing out things that need it (caves biomes, lunar rift if it still feels barren, etc.) Edited August 13, 2025 by Waywarbler why turn :P into weird emoji 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semind Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 4 hours ago, Waywarbler said: Random idea: Frostjaw generating more and more icebergs throughout the ocean until you defeat him. I actually like this because it exposes Frostjaw's location more readily as well. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellium Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 16 hours ago, Waywarbler said: Random idea: Frostjaw generating more and more icebergs throughout the ocean until you defeat him. Also, I do agree with one update not being enough. I hope the next few updates following this arc's conclusion will be mainly just, revisiting and fleshing out things that need it (caves biomes, lunar rift if it still feels barren, etc.) Idea's for the raid bosses, most of these would begin some time into a season and die down as the season peters out. Klaus: Reducing the nautiness threshhold during winter while his sack remains (In hindsight this would probably just be used for Krampus farms so perhaps something better Bee Queen: Pollen effect on the surface during spring, effects like hayfever from hamlet but less server Toadstool: Incrase spoilage of food/ spoilage items in the caves during summer. Don't want any of these to be too hard on the player considering these are raid bosses and harder to deal with solo, but just something to encourage fighting them before/ during a season Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxil20 Posted August 13, 2025 Share Posted August 13, 2025 16 hours ago, Waywarbler said: why turn :P into weird emoji Completely not at all relevant to the topic, but since I saw this as the edit, it’s why I often leave a space when I type emoticons (like : P or : ) ), to avoid having the forums automatically turn it into an emote I don’t exactly desire… Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki Darks Posted August 15, 2025 Share Posted August 15, 2025 Some things I'd like to see recieve an update: Cooking, hunts, combat(maybe), clothing (body slot items), seasons and some other stuff I can't really remember atm. Cooking - Something like Gorge, specifically how characters cook different types of foods faster(Warly would cook all types the fastest) Hunts - Additional mechanics and/or gear that affects the outcome of hunts Combat - too many mobs have the eggsact same kiting pattern and it gets boring Clothing items - Essentially worthless due to backpacks/football helmets/eyebrella/beefalo hat Seasons - More seasonal threats and effects Just some random thoughts/ideas. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephirona Posted August 15, 2025 Share Posted August 15, 2025 On 8/12/2025 at 6:15 PM, Bumber64 said: The mushroom planter is way out of date, IMO. From comments in the code, it looks like living log was chosen for restoring uses because depletion is indistinguishable from structural damage? The cost is too high even before you consider RWYS crops, cave mushrooms, and banana bushes make it basically irrelevant for anyone but Wormwood. It really just needs to work with manure and rot, and maybe have slower growth instead of rotting when snow falls. I love this idea if only because it would let me keep mushroom planters as decoration over the winter, heheh. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted August 15, 2025 Share Posted August 15, 2025 Hopefully they will fix the delay between the surface server and the caves. And they will add it... THE REAL ruins... This is the most important improvement of the old content that I am waiting for. I hope Old Beardlords and Glommer Bell will be around someday. At least for solo worlds. On 12.08.2025 at 22:21, Well-met said: Я не говорю, что старый CK был идеальным, но он определённо был ближе к идеалу, чем то, во что он превратился сейчас. The old CC was a disgusting boss for solo. Ice Staff AFK simulator. But for teams... He was a really fun raid boss, and the new one just breaks down in terms of phases due to being beaten by 3+ people. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted August 15, 2025 Share Posted August 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Hopefully they will fix the delay between the surface server and the caves. And they will add it... THE REAL ruins... This is the most important improvement of the old content that I am waiting for. I hope Old Beardlords and Glommer Bell will be around someday. At least for solo worlds. The old CC was a disgusting boss for solo. Ice Staff AFK simulator. But for teams... He was a really fun raid boss, and the new one just breaks down in terms of phases due to being beaten by 3+ people. Which console are you playing on? I ask because the load time between the Xbox One and the Xbox Series X/S is significantly different, I’m talking the X/S is fast, super fast.. you’ll load into the world a full minute and 40 something seconds before someone still lagging behind on the Xbox One. Perhaps the load times are so long because your hardware is outdated? 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidancode Posted August 15, 2025 Share Posted August 15, 2025 yes, with the caveat that honestly after the many years of QoL the base experience of the game is honestly in a pretty good state. I think Klei would need to be careful with what they would tweak. I'd like to see balance changes to crock pot recipes (mostly in the form of buffs and new special effects) and perhaps a look at some of the skill trees that were more poorly received. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/167551-we-need-an-update-dedicated-to-revisiting-old-content/#findComment-1831982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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