Drying Rack x Icker Preserve

[Maxil20]

4 hours ago, Dyzrespect said:

don't even know how to address the take that health and sanity restoration isn't a large proponent of crock pot dishes, but I'll let you cook on that one.

I'm not sure what you want me to tell you? Again, hunger is the main stat that goes down, which is why you eat a day to day food to keep it back up. If you are eating jerky as a day to day food, the vast majority of the time you are eating it for 25 hunger and not the 20 HP and 15 sanity, meaning you effectively waste the bonus stats you got from drying jerky. 3 meat a day to keep your hunger up is much less practical than ~1 meat every day to recover the same amount of hunger.

Sure, some good crockpot foods are meant for stat restoration, but apart from the fact you can also bulk craft those (a good chunk don't even need meat!), you also really only need lots of those in boss fight scenarios. It's not something I often carry around with me for general purposes. If I need emergency health restoration, I can just pop one of my jellybeans that take up a slot in the bin and go about my day. 

Again, jerky is just Okay. In a world of DST crockpot dishes, where a variety of them are usable and take varied ingredients, you can totally make setups that will outbeat a jerky farm in one way or another. Jerky is an option, but that's about it.

[Dyzrespect]

3 minutes ago, Maxil20 said:

I'm not sure what you want me to tell you? Again, hunger is the main stat that goes down, which is why you eat a day to day food to keep it back up. If you are eating jerky as a day to day food, the vast majority of the time you are eating it for 25 hunger and not the 20 HP and 15 sanity, meaning you effectively waste the bonus stats you got from drying jerky. 3 meat a day to keep your hunger up is much less practical than ~1 meat every day to recover the same amount of hunger.

Sure, some good crockpot foods are meant for stat restoration, but apart from the fact you can also bulk craft those (a good chunk don't even need meat!), you also really only need lots of those in boss fight scenarios. It's not something I often carry around with me for general purposes. If I need emergency health restoration, I can just pop one of my jellybeans that take up a slot in the bin and go about my day. 

Again, jerky is just Okay. In a world of DST crockpot dishes, where a variety of them are usable and take varied ingredients, you can totally make setups that will outbeat a jerky farm in one way or another. Jerky is an option, but that's about it.

Why are you cooking anything if only the hunger matters? Just so it fits in the bearger bin? I rarely run into situations where I'm starving, but I guess that depends on the player/situation. Regardless, unless you need the extra 10 or 15 hunger value or whatever out of your ingredients, you just get a lot more value out of any dryable ingredient over cooking it. But sure, if you only focus on hunger, yeah, crockpot does more than jerky. 

[JazzyGames]

1 hour ago, Dyzrespect said:

Why are you cooking anything if only the hunger matters? Just so it fits in the bearger bin? I rarely run into situations where I'm starving, but I guess that depends on the player/situation. Regardless, unless you need the extra 10 or 15 hunger value or whatever out of your ingredients, you just get a lot more value out of any dryable ingredient over cooking it. But sure, if you only focus on hunger, yeah, crockpot does more than jerky. 

I mean, yeah. With the bearger bin I can hold in a single inventory slot all the hunger, healing, and sanity I'll possibly need for hundreds of days without running a single farm. Meaty stew effectively doubles the hunger value of large meat, even more if you use monster meat. So it's a BIG increase in hunger efficiency over jerky. Like Maxil said, the other two stats are situational, not necessarily something that you need to address every couple of days like hunger. So most of the time you'd be eating jerky mainly for the hunger unless you are averaging a health loss of 60 per day or draining 45 sanity. It's just not something that most players have to rely on constantly, especially if you're wearing clothing for sanity.

Now all of that said, if it were as easy to carry around six stacks of jerky inside a bearger bin (or even five stacks plus some meaty stew), then I for one would seriously consider incorporating an all-purpose food into my routine. But if I need to bring an extra bundle for jerky I'm not going to bother.

[cropo]

Jerky barely heals anything and it has the "slow eat" animation. Dragonpie gives way more hunger, 40 health, and has the "quick eat" animation and can be stored in a bearger bin and gives all the hunger I'll ever need.. If it were allowed in the Bearger bin, the only thing I'd use it for is sanity regeneration and I'd still have my stacks of dragonpies for actual serious healing.

Hell I don't even think I'd use it for sanity as you can put that Plant Meat honey recipie(name eludes me) for 75 sanity a pop.

I really don't think Jerky being allowed in the Bearger Bin is going to replace any crock pot dish, aside from taking another slot in the bin and being a "casual" healer of sanity and health.

[Well-met]

1 minute ago, cropo said:

Jerky barely heals anything and it has the "slow eat" animation. Dragonpie gives way more hunger, 40 health, and has the "quick eat" animation and can be stored in a bearger bin and gives all the hunger I'll ever need.. If it were allowed in the Bearger bin, the only thing I'd use it for is sanity regeneration and I'd still have my stacks of dragonpies for actual serious healing.

Hell I don't even think I'd use it for sanity as you can put that Plant Meat honey recipie(name eludes me) for 75 sanity a pop.

I really don't think Jerky being allowed in the Bearger Bin is going to replace any crock pot dish, aside from taking another slot in the bin and being a "casual" healer of sanity and health.

all of these things you said require a dedicated garden farming, lureplant farming, bee farming, storage and cooking

Jerky needs one (1) structure and one (1) meat, and also doesn't need rifts to exist.

[cropo]

6 minutes ago, Well-met said:

all of these things you said require a dedicated garden farming, lureplant farming, bee farming, storage and cooking

Jerky needs one (1) structure and one (1) meat, and also doesn't need rifts to exist.

Without the Bearger Bin Jerky is even worse. Unbundling a wrap to eat like 10 jerks to get your sanity and health back up to then rewrap it is a huge waste of time. Most of what I said still exists pre-rifts, it just exists in bundling wrap and unwrapping it and restoring your entire bars in one, maybe two clicks, still outperforms jerky on a massive scale. 

Jerky takes days to grow, has limitations during spring, and barely performs at all. Having it in the Bearger Bin isn't going to outperform anything except extremely casual upkeep where you aren't fighting or doing anything important. Are you going to take Jerky to a Bee Queen fight? Stop Fuelweavers brainwash by slamming jerky? It's just such a weak item that fails in comparison to anything else.


Dragonfruit farms are extremely passive; the only difficult part is getting your foot in the door and once you do your food needs are almost entirely covered. Lureplant farming is another foot-in-the-door situation as well, yeah you have to wait a bit to get it but once you do you're completely set for life. 

Most foods require "cooking", jerky hanging could be considered a form of "cooking" in its own right. What are you farming to heal and restore sanity that doesn't require cooking? Cactus plants? 

Jerky is such a mid-tier item and acting like it's going to dethrone the kings just because it can be put into a bearger bin is crazy to me.


As for "re-using spoiling meat" why not just feed it to a bird for eggs to make pierogi with? Even if you're not farming Dragonfruit, farming a mass of carrots or potatos gives you all the fodder you ever need and farming meat is a non-issue for nearly every character.

Edited July 30, 2025 by cropo

[Captain_Rage]

On 7/29/2025 at 1:36 AM, JazzyGames said:

Regarding prep time, drying meat takes 2-3 days to prepare. Crockpot food takes less than a minute. I really don’t see the danger in making this playstyle just a bit more compatible with late-game survival.

Fish meat takes one day or even less to turn into jerky. The current buff is quite insane when sailing at the start of a world. Right, almost nobody sails or hauls Sunken Treasures in this game or has even built an Ocean Trawler even once. x)

[Dyzrespect]

1 hour ago, JazzyGames said:

I mean, yeah. With the bearger bin I can hold in a single inventory slot all the hunger, healing, and sanity I'll possibly need for hundreds of days without running a single farm. Meaty stew effectively doubles the hunger value of large meat, even more if you use monster meat. So it's a BIG increase in hunger efficiency over jerky. Like Maxil said, the other two stats are situational, not necessarily something that you need to address every couple of days like hunger. So most of the time you'd be eating jerky mainly for the hunger unless you are averaging a health loss of 60 per day or draining 45 sanity. It's just not something that most players have to rely on constantly, especially if you're wearing clothing for sanity.

Now all of that said, if it were as easy to carry around six stacks of jerky inside a bearger bin (or even five stacks plus some meaty stew), then I for one would seriously consider incorporating an all-purpose food into my routine. But if I need to bring an extra bundle for jerky I'm not going to bother.

I know you mainly megabase or whatever, but I feel like a large majority of players don't really play like that. 75 hunger a day isn't hard to maintain, and you very rarely get to the point where you're needing to optimize your food stores to have hundreds of days of hunger stored up. If you just cycle the meat you get through your racks, that's more than enough hunger value to last in perpetuity, and then whether you need the hunger or sanity or not, you have it there for free. You could even put monster jerky in there and use regular jerky to offset the damage you take from it. 6 stacks of jerky in a bearger bin will last you a full 80 day year, and won't even go stale in 200 days, and will be by far way less effort than anything else you could likely put in there, at least player time spent wise.

Opening up the bearger bin to hold things other than crockpots is a fine argument to have, but specifically just trying to open it up to jerky I think highlights that we recognize how strong jerky is.

[Dingle]

6 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

Opening up the bearger bin to hold things other than crockpots is a fine argument to have, but specifically just trying to open it up to jerky I think highlights that we recognize how strong jerky is.

People usually suggest that because they feel jerky is weak. So, the opposite: not worth using compared to crockpot foods.

[Dyzrespect]

9 minutes ago, Dingle said:

People usually suggest that because they feel jerky is weak. So, the opposite: not worth using compared to crockpot foods.

Jerky was only weak because of how much time and space it took to prepare. That is no longer the case. There isn't a more stat efficient thing you can do with any ingredient that can be dried, aside from hunger dishes. So, no. It's always been strong, just not efficient.

Edited July 30, 2025 by Dyzrespect

[Dingle]

1 minute ago, Dyzrespect said:

Jerky was only weak because of how much time and space it took to prepare. That is no longer the case. There isn't a more stat efficient thing you can do with any ingredient that can be dried, aside from hunger dishes. So, no. It's always been a convenience thing.

People were suggesting that the bearger bin accept jerky before a couple days ago, though.

[somethin]

7 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

Opening up the bearger bin to hold things other than crockpots is a fine argument to have, but specifically just trying to open it up to jerky I think highlights that we recognize how strong jerky is.

I don't know what to tell you, but jerky are just... overrated? They restore every stats, sure, but not a whole lot. They have that annoying long eating animation which can be fatal in boss fight considering you have to slam multiple of them. The ONLY time I ever consider jerky to be the best for the situation is when go to the ruins pre-bundling/polar bin since that's where you actually need three stats at once and jerky is easy to mass produce. Also, guess what's better than jerky in a late game world? Figatonis. Literally jerky on steroids, easy to cook and doesn't even require meat. Plus, they go in the bin. 

[crushcircuit]

11 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

I know you mainly megabase or whatever, but I feel like a large majority of players don't really play like that. 75 hunger a day isn't hard to maintain, and you very rarely get to the point where you're needing to optimize your food stores to have hundreds of days of hunger stored up. If you just cycle the meat you get through your racks, that's more than enough hunger value to last in perpetuity, and then whether you need the hunger or sanity or not, you have it there for free. You could even put monster jerky in there and use regular jerky to offset the damage you take from it. 6 stacks of jerky in a bearger bin will last you a full 80 day year, and won't even go stale in 200 days, and will be by far way less effort than anything else you could likely put in there, at least player time spent wise.

casual player here: i only use jerky for the healing/sanity. it feels like a huge waste to be using it as hunger restoration when there are other options available to you that are way less time consuming to get. the bearger bin has multiple slots - wouldn't it be a bit more practical (and enjoyable) to utilize the variety that enables?

i don't think jerky is really as all-powerful as you see it, but it's completely fine if that's the strat you would employ. i think it's a bit silly to act as if it would be the defacto option here though

...also, this is post-rifts content. if you're post-rifts shouldn't you have a pretty steady food supply by then? i feel like it might even be easier to have a steady supply of a variety of foods to use for crockpots instead of a gigantic supply of just large meat, you know?

[Dyzrespect]

30 minutes ago, Dingle said:

People were suggesting that the bearger bin accept jerky before a couple days ago, though.

Yeah, and I maybe would've too, because it wasn't worth the effort back then. Took too much time and space hanging and harvesting. Now that's not a problem. People also suggested adding all perishable items to the bearger bin, but I feel like that kinda defeats the purpose of it, as would adding jerky.

 

29 minutes ago, somethin said:

I don't know what to tell you, but jerky are just... overrated? They restore every stats, sure, but not a whole lot.

Anything you can make the components of jerky into restores less stats than just eating the jerky, of course excluding hunger. If you aren't getting enough food to sustain the racks then sure, you'll need to supplement hunger, but that's not a problem for most playthroughs I feel like, at least with how much meat rots in the salt boxes and fridges of the worlds I play, solo and with ppl from the DST discord.

 

29 minutes ago, crushcircuit said:

casual player here: i only use jerky for the healing/sanity. it feels like a huge waste to be using it as hunger restoration when there are other options available to you that are way less time consuming to get. the bearger bin has multiple slots - wouldn't it be a bit more practical (and enjoyable) to utilize the variety that enables?

i don't think jerky is really as all-powerful as you see it, but it's completely fine if that's the strat you would employ. i think it's a bit silly to act as if it would be the defacto option here though

...also, this is post-rifts content. if you're post-rifts shouldn't you have a pretty steady food supply by then? i feel like it might even be easier to have a steady supply of a variety of foods to use for crockpots instead of a gigantic supply of just large meat, you know?

Again, name some more stat efficient foods than jerky. If your food income isn't sufficient then yeah, of course crock pot dishes help eke out more hunger value, but 99% of the time you can just throw what you get onto the racks (morsels, frogs legs, seaweed, monster meat, meat, fish meat) and have as much hunger/healing/sanity as you could ever need. I know this because I suffered through the harvesting time of a giant drying rack field for a long time (which is no longer an issue), and only recently started farming and living off of tomas and potatoes after I learned wormwood.

Edited July 30, 2025 by Dyzrespect

[crushcircuit]

21 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

Again, name some more stat efficient foods. If your food income isn't sufficient then yeah, of course crock pot dishes help eke out more hunger value, but 99% of the time you can just throw what you get onto the racks (morsels, frogs legs, seaweed, monster meat, meat, fish meat) and have as much hunger/healing/sanity as you could ever need. I know this because I suffered through the harvesting time of a giant drying rack field for a long time, and only recently started farming instead just to learn.

i was not aware you were including small jerky as well. i never bother with that because the stat restoration is... quite meager to me, when you could make so many more crockpot dishes that give way more bang for your buck. (to give a very basic option - meatballs can be made with a frog leg and 3 ice, and give triple the hunger value while taking like 20 seconds to make, as opposed to over eight IRL minutes of drying time. yes, you can make three times the dried meat now, but you have to use all three in order to do that, so...)

again, its fine if you play that way, but you must recognize that you are probably one of VERY few who would choose to only eat jerky. 

i would answer the former question but i genuinely do feel like you should just like, look at the crockpot dish list. for what i said (dish variety, filling the six slots of the bearger bin with several different foods that are very efficient for different stats and situations, as opposed to filling all of them with one all-around option) i feel like naming just a few dishes would understate the sheer amount of variety of playstyle that is possible with a bearger bin. your experiences are not universal. and of course neither are mine. there are so many crockpot dishes in DST now that its difficult to really pin down what the one true bearger bin combo would be.

yes, that doesnt answer your question. no, i dont particularly feel like dedicating my time to scrolling through the recipe book at this moment. apologies if this is an insufficient answer to you, but it is mine.

Edited July 30, 2025 by crushcircuit
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[cropo]

I would rather mass potatos than jerky myself. The long eating animation is such a deal-breaker, good way to get interrupted during fights. Healing only 20 hp and 15 sanity while being rooted during the entire animation is a good way to get killed. It takes double the dosage to heal as much as a pierogi, 3.5 times as much to heal the same sanity a Jelly Salad could, and the hunger is a non-factor. That's a long time that you're sitting there asking to be hit out of the animation and possibly losing all of the healing you would have gained.

I get that it can be decent if you're doing literally nothing and no fighting as a general upkeep but it's far too weak to be praising its uses this much. 

[Dyzrespect]

11 minutes ago, crushcircuit said:

i was not aware you were including small jerky as well. i never bother with that because the stat restoration is... quite meager to me, when you could make so many more crockpot dishes that give way more bang for your buck. (to give a very basic option - meatballs can be made with a frog leg and 3 ice, and give triple the hunger value while taking like 20 seconds to make, as opposed to over eight IRL minutes of drying time. yes, you can make three times the dried meat now, but you have to use all three in order to do that, so...)

again, its fine if you play that way, but you must recognize that you are probably one of VERY few who would choose to only eat jerky. 

i would answer the former question but i genuinely do feel like you should just like, look at the crockpot dish list. for what i said (dish variety, filling the six slots of the bearger bin with several different foods that are very efficient for different stats and situations, as opposed to filling all of them with one all-around option) i feel like naming just a few dishes would understate the sheer amount of variety of playstyle that is possible with a bearger bin. your experiences are not universal. and of course neither are mine. there are so many crockpot dishes in DST now that its difficult to really pin down what the one true bearger bin combo would be.

yes, that doesnt answer your question. no, i dont particularly feel like dedicating my time to scrolling through the recipe book at this moment. apologies if this is an insufficient answer to you, but it is mine.

You're just incorrect, you apparently do need to look through the list. Hunger is the only stat you can get better value from in terms of raw stats. One jerky is already half of the healing value of pirogi which requires 4 ingredients. Using small meats/seaweed as filler can be a more interesting equation, but it's still much less effort and more than enough to just dry them and get value out of the easy sanity/health from them. Hunger will not be an issue unless you can't keep the racks stocked. Go ahead and do a run with 9 racks you keep stocked, as well as anyone else just yappin without having tried it themselves. It's extremely easy now.

Edited July 30, 2025 by Dyzrespect

[crushcircuit]

Just now, Dyzrespect said:

You're just incorrect, you apparently do need to look through the list. Hunger is the only stat you can get better value from in terms of raw stats. One jerky is already half of the healing value of pirogi which requires 4 ingredients. Using small meats/seaweed as filler can be a more interesting equation, but it's still much less effort and more than enough to just dry them and get value out of the easy sanity/health from them. Hunger will not be an issue unless you can't keep the racks stocked. Go ahead and do a run with 9 racks you keep stocked, as well as anyone else just yappin without having tried it themselves. It's extremely easy now.

i am glad you found a playstyle that works for you, but that sounds very unenjoyable for me. i hope you have a nice day!

[cropo]

2 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

One jerky is already half of the healing value of pirogi which requires 4 ingredients

That's absolutely terrible because Pierogi's ingredients are incredibly easy to gain and in terms of combat you are effectively cutting your required healing time in half which has massive combat implications.

[Dyzrespect]

8 minutes ago, cropo said:

That's absolutely terrible because Pierogi's ingredients are incredibly easy to gain and in terms of combat you are effectively cutting your required healing time in half which has massive combat implications.

Dude I get it jerky takes a long time to chew, okay, lol. I don't tank bosses so it's never been a problem for me. I don't want to get into explaining time efficiency and opportunity cost, the short of it is that it's way less time and mental bandwidth just throwing everything you get onto a rack. You don't have to collect vegetables or filler or store them or use a bird. All you do is maybe have a salt box and a bunch of racks and you're sorted, that is the power of jerky.

Edited July 30, 2025 by Dyzrespect

[ArtiTheFool]

9 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

You're just incorrect, you apparently do need to look through the list. Hunger is the only stat you can get better value from in terms of raw stats. One jerky is already half of the healing value of pirogi which requires 4 ingredients. Using small meats/seaweed as filler can be a more interesting equation, but it's still much less effort and more than enough to just dry them and get value out of the easy sanity/health from them.

That's assuming you're using regular meat, and not monster meat which most people would be using as it is quite easy to amass without specifically farming for it as opposed to regular meat. Additionally I feel like the Jerky V.S. Crockpot argument is not really valid because its basically like arguing between 2 different playstyles which is extremely subjective. Personally I don't find drying racks appealing because they require upkeep as opposed to me just throwing whatever I have in my fridge into a dish that will last me another day. And I know you're going to argue "But it's so much easier to just throw your meat onto a drying rack and be done with it!" but that statement assumes I amass enough meat to sustain myself which I don't, I amass enough ingredients to make meals that will last me but just straight meat isn't something I go out of my way for. I'd rather spend some monster meat and kelp to make meatballs than farm regular meat. Of course that doesn't invalidate your playstyle, I'm simply just explaining how I (and probably most people) play.

[Dyzrespect]

15 minutes ago, ArtiTheFool said:

Additionally I feel like the Jerky V.S. Crockpot argument is not really valid because its basically like arguing between 2 different playstyles

YES, you get it, that's the whole point. If you add jerky to the bearger bin you essentially invalidate one playstyle with another.

And no, even seaweed and small meats are incredibly efficient, it's really only meatballs with very cheap filler that outshine jerky there. I'm also valuing all stats as equal, and that is definitely subjective, but with the new racks I'm accepting as a baseline that at minimum you could just fill up a bunch of racks up with seaweed at least and hunger will be handled anyways. Health and sanity restoration are both situational so I kinda view their value as the same.

[somethin]

28 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

All you do is maybe have a salt box and a bunch of racks and you're sorted, that is the power of jerky.

And so does having a crockpot...

Anyways, with the new update I would build more drying racks anyway for dried kelp. Now that is a worthwhile pursuit.

[Dyzrespect]

4 minutes ago, somethin said:

And so does having a crockpot...

aaaand a farm for vegetables (or seaweed)... and ice/butterfly farm for filler... and ice boxes/salt boxes... twig farm... and a bird cage... and crock repeater mod... and then yeah!

Anyways I largely digress. I'll just leave off my contribution to this discussion with the question "Should the Polar Bearger Bin be able to hold any perishable?", because despite most of what I've brought up, I think the actual issue lies in answering that.

[somethin]

2 minutes ago, Dyzrespect said:

aaaand a farm for vegetables (or seaweed)... and ice/butterfly farm for filler... and ice boxes/salt boxes... twig farm... and a bird cage... and crock repeater mod... and then yeah!

Funny That you bring those up when you don't even need those to make crockpot worthwhile... considering food is everywhere in this game as is. But yeah! You put in the work to make farms, you get to make much more efficient foods that are way better than some mediocre jerky. That's just fair trade no?

As for whether everything should be able to be put in polar bearger bin? Probably not. Why? That's just adding another inconsistent thing into the game on top of everything that's already here. That's my opinion