Finally, after ALL this time!!!!!!

[Milordo]

This was TOO much of an impact to not put on General Discussions and being lost in the Beta Branch threads.

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OH MY ALTER. After what? 13 Y-E-A-R-S Klei has finally put geometrical placement in the base game. I want to know now everything. Why now? Why not before? What changed Klei's heart to finally implement it after all this time? 

I guess we can say now jokingly "better late than never".

[Hungry French]

We are waiting for it in DS

[Bumber64]

12 hours ago, Hungry French said:

We are waiting for it in DS

Edited May 24, 2025 by Bumber64
Shrank image a bit

[Milordo]

No, but really. Very happy about this news but more morbidly curious about Klei reasons behind.

[Queron81]

15 hours ago, Milordo said:

No, but really. Very happy about this news but more morbidly curious about Klei reasons behind.

This is one of the most subscribed mods (6.2 Mio.). It doesn't really change anything about the game, you can just make things look a bit nicer. I think they added it primarily for console players.

[Hungry French]

1 hour ago, Queron81 said:

Это один из самых популярных модов (6,2 млн подписчиков). Он практически ничего не меняет в игре, просто делает её немного приятнее. Я думаю, что его добавили в первую очередь для игроков на консолях.

We are waiting for the implementation of all other popular mods. And those that change the game too

[Brago-sama]

REAL?!?

This better not be a late april fools joke

[Milordo]

2 hours ago, Queron81 said:

This is one of the most subscribed mods (6.2 Mio.). It doesn't really change anything about the game, you can just make things look a bit nicer. I think they added it primarily for console players.

By any means it is THE most subscribed mod ever, not one. First place ever and one of the first mods ever made but that's why I'm asking it. Probably you weren't before on Don't Starve and just joined recently (2-3 years), but it was asked ad nauseam since.... ever, to be implemented in the game. You also said it yourself "It doesn't really change anything about the game, you can just make things look a bit nicer" exactly. Why Klei waited all this time? What happened? So many mods, feedbacks and help from the community arrived in the game but why geometric placement has been post-poned so much? I can guaranteed many people at this point didn't even thought this day would arrived (LMAO as I was writing Brago-sama posted his comment, proving my point), with how 11 years has passed since the mod creation, dayum. I'm very curious. 

16 minutes ago, Brago-sama said:

REAL?!?

This better not be a late april fools joke

IT'S NOT!!!!! REJOICE BROTHER!!!! 

That's why I made the post and the answer up here! 

Edited May 24, 2025 by Milordo

[Hungry French]

23 minutes ago, Milordo said:

Во всяком случае, это самый популярный мод за всю историю, а не какой-то один. Первое место в истории и один из первых когда-либо созданных модов, но именно поэтому я его и спрашиваю. Возможно, вы раньше не играли в Don't Starve и присоединились недавно (2-3 года назад), но об этом просили с тех пор, как... когда-либо внедряли его в игру. Вы сами сказали: «Это на самом деле ничего не меняет в игре, вы просто можете сделать так, чтобы всё выглядело немного лучше». Почему Клей ждал всё это время? Что случилось? В игру пришло так много модов, отзывов и помощи от сообщества, но почему так долго откладывалось добавление геометрии? Я могу с уверенностью сказать, что многие люди на тот момент даже не думали, что этот день настанет (LMAO, пока я писал, Браго-сама оставил свой комментарий, доказывающий мою точку зрения), ведь с момента создания мода прошло 11 лет. Мне очень любопытно.

ЭТО НЕ ТАК!!!!! РАДУЙСЯ, БРАТИК!!!!

Вот почему я написал этот пост и ответ здесь!

Is it recent 2-3 years ago ? That's quite a lot of time.

[Milordo]

Just now, Hungry French said:

Is it recent 2-3 years ago ? That's quite a lot of time.

Yes, for human standards. For Don't Starve standards, ehhh not so much. 

[Queron81]

28 minutes ago, Milordo said:

By any means it is THE most subscribed mod ever, not one. First place ever and one of the first mods ever made but that's why I'm asking it. Probably you weren't before on Don't Starve and just joined recently (2-3 years), but it was asked ad nauseam since.... ever, to be implemented in the game. You also said it yourself "It doesn't really change anything about the game, you can just make things look a bit nicer" exactly. Why Klei waited all this time? What happened? So many mods, feedbacks and help from the community arrived in the game but why geometric placement has been post-poned so much?

The most subscribed mod is Combined Status (8.6 Mio), Geometric Placement is on the fourth place (after Minimap HUD and Global Positions). I joined Don't Starve in January 2013. I think Klei wanted to use as less UI/information as possible. This was their choice for this game. They wanted to keep this philosophy, but there can always be a point where people can change their mind. Also I think developers usually don't like to implement mod content into their games because mods are always ideas/content from players. It's like copying other peoples work. I think that's the reason why Klei's implementation of this mechanic looks and works so different. I still prefer the mod, because it is perfect.

I don't think we will ever get an explanation. I'm just happy about this decision, especially for console players.

 

[Milordo]

1 hour ago, Queron81 said:

I joined Don't Starve in January 2013. I think Klei wanted to use as less UI/information as possible. This was their choice for this game. They wanted to keep this philosophy, but there can always be a point where people can change their mind. Also I think developers usually don't like to implement mod content into their games because mods are always ideas/content from players. It's like copying other peoples work. I think that's the reason why Klei's implementation of this mechanic looks and works so different. I still prefer the mod, because it is perfect.

Oh okay, thanks  I instead will remove my subscription from geometrical and play with the official one to see how it goes in the long run.

[Cheggf]

Is there a new beta?

[AliceShiki]

9 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

Is there a new beta?

Yep, Pearl was kicked out of her island and Geometric Placement is now part of the game.

[Semind]

I think there's a notion of weighing the value of adding new features (especially global features like this one that interact with every part of the world) which is also a factor. You have to consider that whenever something is added, it isn't a one-time deal when it comes to continually updating games. People won't easily overlook bugs or broken features, so it is necessary to keep doing QA. Every additional feature is a new thing that needs maintenance as you keep piling on extra additional content. It's part of why it's not the simplest thing in the world for every dev team to implement every option imaginable in each game. There comes a workload cost with it.

That's not to say that geometric placement was some trivial thing that Klei could safely ignore when it comes to impact on the play experience, but I think the context of deciding whether or not to add something you officially support has some hidden costs that players won't generally concern themselves with.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was an important facet of why Terraria is taking so long between updates in more recent years.

Edited May 24, 2025 by Semind

[Milordo]

1 hour ago, Semind said:

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True! Never took in consideration the dev aspect behind of it. Thanks.

[Echsrick]

i still will never use it

[xDarkSoul18x]

I cannot explain how much this is going to improve the game for me as a primarily console player (Hopes it comes to Solo DS too! but that's another dream). Features like this should be baked into the game for sure and is going to make base building and mega worlding much better. Like I was playing Palworlds and they have a Snap/align feature for building and I'm just like how does this stuff NOT become the standards? Like any game hat has building should have a feature that lets you align, snap etc. It's about time for this game! I verbally shouted "NO!" (As in NO WAY!) When I was the video covering the update. . . I'm going to need a lot of pitchforks and hammers. .Thanks klei! 

[Milordo]

UPDATE!!!!!! It seems we'll get a Gesture Wheel official too!!!!!!! 

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Frosty_Mentos]

18 hours ago, Milordo said:

UPDATE!!!!!! It seems we'll get a Gesture Wheel official too!!!!!!! 

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I was so hyped for some reason reading that wrong as if 'wheelchair official'